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Navy Pilots Caught On Camera Grounded Over Lake Stunt
SAN DIEGO -- Two Navy helicopter pilots from North Island Naval Air Station have been grounded over a YouTube video that allegedly shows them dipping the $33 million aircrafts into Lake Tahoe. In the video taken Sept. 13, both helicopters hit the water and one seems to spin out of control and crash into the water before its pilot apparently pulls the craft back into the air. (www.10news.com) עוד...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Radio Com. Btwn the 2 choppers should solve the mystery.. I agree with Richard, let the board determine what happened.. Then we can all Haze those pilots if found negligent..
Lets wait till the Navy finds out what happen an than judge
One thing to be sure is that the Squadron Safety NATOPS officer will get to the bottom of this - I cannot believe that this was a last minute idea for these guys doing their cross country training evolution. As a retired NATOPS Instructor all training evolutions are briefed but probably in this case the ORM checklist wasn't gone through thoroughly. I would probably dare to say that complacency was also in play here. The HAC's hold the ultimate responsibility here and they will be held accountable for their actions.
I am just glad that this wasn't a class A mishap and the loss of 8 people.
I am just glad that this wasn't a class A mishap and the loss of 8 people.
Gentlemen,
These guys were slowing to a hover and lost control nearly simultaneously. It was not an intended water touchdown. Their error was to not recognize the density altitude. Given their successful saves of the aircraft, the bystander can be forgiven the impression that it was done on purpose.
As a guest pilot, I was in that exact same spot in an HH-60H just a few years ago. I wanted to slow to a hover but the extremely savvy aircraft commander wouldn't let me get below about 40 knots.
Needless to say, this was not the Navy Helo community's finest hour, but let's try to cut down on some of the jerking of knees. Military helicopters train to operate in high, hot and heavy locales. These guys surely dicked it up, but they were not showing off, flat-hatting, or anything else. They flew into a high box canyon on a hot day.
Ironically, the aircraft commander that wouldn't let me hover in that exact spot, is now involved in the investigation.
Cheers to those of you who will wait for the results of the Boards!
Best,
Jungle
F-14A-D/FA-18A-F
These guys were slowing to a hover and lost control nearly simultaneously. It was not an intended water touchdown. Their error was to not recognize the density altitude. Given their successful saves of the aircraft, the bystander can be forgiven the impression that it was done on purpose.
As a guest pilot, I was in that exact same spot in an HH-60H just a few years ago. I wanted to slow to a hover but the extremely savvy aircraft commander wouldn't let me get below about 40 knots.
Needless to say, this was not the Navy Helo community's finest hour, but let's try to cut down on some of the jerking of knees. Military helicopters train to operate in high, hot and heavy locales. These guys surely dicked it up, but they were not showing off, flat-hatting, or anything else. They flew into a high box canyon on a hot day.
Ironically, the aircraft commander that wouldn't let me hover in that exact spot, is now involved in the investigation.
Cheers to those of you who will wait for the results of the Boards!
Best,
Jungle
F-14A-D/FA-18A-F
If you never go to the edge to take a look, how do you know where the edge is. This country was built with people who was always looking to see how for one could go. These pilots just got a look at the edge of performance of aircraft and pilot. The both have limits and abilities. Now the pilots have a good understanding as to the effects of density alitude are are better prepaired for their next mission. If they were incompilent, they would not have been there in the first place. Let the Navy take care of this. Let us fellow American and Muslims be thankful for them.
Naval Aviator long ago
A4, A3