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Fleet Analysis: Transatlantic Airbus A321 operations

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The A321 is becoming the dominant narrowbody aircraft across the Atlantic. According to the latest OAG data, it has approximately 7,238 non-stop departures from Europe to North and South America this summer, running between Mar. 27 and Oct. 29. There are an average of 34 daily outbound flights, double for both directions. (www.airguide.info) עוד...

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patpylot
patrick baker 4
there will be city-pairs served that don't support a larger widebody-787,777 etc, and airbus is justifiably proud of that. Medium to small cities on each side of the atlantic will be getting service, as more folks feel secure in travel. I was around when the 767 first started going transatlantic, then more and more trips were made, then it became the most prevelent flier of its time. Pay attention to the advertising about this, and nothing is mentioned about the high level of comfort afforded to the 5, 6 or 7 hour flight, because there is very little of that.
jeffinsydney
jeff slack 4
3 hours and under I will sit anywhere in any class.

More than 3 hours I will pay the premium to sit upfront but I want plenty of upfront to sit in.
I will continue to choose my seat based on the aircraft type operated and the quality of the carrier.

If the masses want to fly to secondary cities and want to do it the least expensive way possible they are welcome to the a321.
aurodoc
aurodoc 1
Luckily I live in the SF bay area so my 10 hour plus flight to Germany will never be on an A321.
However I did take an 11 hour flight multiple times from LAX to Europe on a Capitol airlines DC-8 so I can appreciate flying on a wide body jet.
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 2
There are already plenty of US domestic flights handled by A321s that are upwards of 5 or 6 hours, like JFK to LAX or LAX to Kahului, HI.

Sitting that long in a narrowbody isn't unique to transatlantic flights and the flying public is pretty much used to it.
patpylot
patrick baker 1
they may be used to it. They don't necssarily like it if they ever flew on 747, 777, MD-11, A330, A340-600. etc. They are used to it, says you???
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 5
What makes those aircraft more comfortable during a 5+ hour flight? Are the seats wider? Do they offer more legroom? Those are largely configuration choices by the airline.

Really, the only benefit of a widebody are possibly easier access to lavatories due to having two aisles and more lavatories. The ability to get up and stretch your legs by walking around a bit exists on all aircraft.

On the downside, boarding and deplaning a larger aircraft will take longer even if there are more aisles because you have more people using one jetway. Some aircraft will have more than one jetway but reserve the one in front for First Class and Business Class. Even the A380 which uses separate jetways for the two decks uses one jetway for Economy.
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 2
not this again. IT all depends how the seating is setup. It's fine for transatlantic. 6 or 7 hours who cares. IT's a BUS, not a RESORT.
EPRturbo
Martin Pfister 2
The A321XLR is a great product with all it's modifications added lately.
Although it took AIB a long time to realise that winglets are very beneficial to the economics of an airplane, even more with the growing number of average leg-hours.
Remember, the very first A320 domestic use (AirInter) hadn't even wingtip fences.
AIB is nowadays a very mature and far superior airplane/product than any other competition (if at all we can call these days competition...)!
frequentflyguy
STEPHEN HLUCHANYK 0
Its amazing what you can do with subsidies from Euro governments.
Jeraboam
Jeraboam 3
I understand that Boeing is the biggest recipient of tax breaks and grants from federal, state and municipal governments in the USA. Is this true?
nasdisco
Chris B 1
Flown 747, 777, 787 on transatlantic routes. There is definitely a need for single aisles to secondary cities but I wouldn’t like it on the 737 which just feels cramped in comparison to the Airbus.
MarcusGiddens
Marcus Giddens 1
I flew across the Atlantic on a VC-10,in the last row, next to the rear mounted engines (two on each side) in 1975....my ears are still ringing. I would not like to fly trans-at in a single aisle plane, need the extra aisle and space, lav's, the VC-10 was fine when I was 11 years old....
darjr26
darjr26 1
Passenger comfort aside do you feel as safe in a A321 as you would in say a B777 or an A350?
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 1
yes,why not?
darjr26
darjr26 1
Think about it Sky. The big fellows were designed from the ground up to be an ocean crossing, intercontinental aircraft. The 321 wasn’t.
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 2
right. cuz halfway there they just fall apart. Don't be an idiot.
darjr26
darjr26 1
You obviously know nothing about airplanes or flight planning or aircraft capabilities. Just sit in the back of the plane and try not to make a fool of yourself.
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 1
When was the last accident with these smaller planes crossing the pond ? You're an idiot. You know nothing.
rwoollams
Richard Woollams 1
I wonde4 how much these numbers are skewed by the 737 Max grounding.

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