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No more medical exemptions: Alaska Airlines says anyone who can't or won't wear a mask won't be allowed to fly

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Alaska Airlines is the latest airline to announce it will no longer allow medical exemptions from its mask-wearing requirement. The carrier said that if a passenger was unwilling or unable to wear one, they would not be permitted to fly. Despite evidence that wearing masks can significantly limit the spread of the coronavirus, masks have become a flashpoint for conflicts aboard flights (as well as elsewhere). Alaska Airlines said on Wednesday that it will no longer fly passengers who are… (www.yahoo.com) עוד...

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Lib4ever
Maxwell Johnson 17
Per my friend and neighbor, professor of pulmonary medicine at the local med school, instances in which a mask would be medically contraindicated would be vanishingly rare. That said, I share the concern of others regarding emotional support animals. I've flown many a guide dog and other service animals with nary a problem while "support" animals have frequently caused issues. I returned a flight to the gate once to deplane a woman with an absolutely out of control cat. To her credit, the woman agreed that the cat couldn't fly and apologized profusely to the FAs, the pax, and to the FO and me.
wogggieee
wogggieee 5
I'll echo this. I've worn masks at less than 30% lung function while on supplemental oxygen and on the lung transplant list with out issue. I have many friends who have done the same and they're all very pro mask.
MKanzler
Mark Kanzler -6
I won't be able to fly.
When I wear a mask, it starts my skin itching.
I can last a few minutes okay, an hour at a time with considerable discomfort, but after that, it starts looking like I'm having an allergic reaction, and the longer I wear the mask, the more of my body starts to itch. I already have skin problems (was asked if it's contagious by a manager at work once)... there is no way I can fly from SEA to PHL to visit my son now. Not on Alaska anyway.

I'm thinking it won't be long until someone files an ADA lawsuit against them.
zbeeblebrox
Douglas Friday 4
Im sorry you are unable to fly.
Perhaps you can try a different type of mask? Im sure that masks exist which fully encapsulate your face without actually touching your face itself.
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 7
The ADA is irrelevant. The ACAA (Air Carrier Access Act) gives the airlines the right to do what they are doing.
frequentflyguy
STEPHEN HLUCHANYK 6
ADA requires a company to make a REASONABLE accommodation not totally accommodate. Flying is also not a right. And while I am empathetic to your condition, itchy skin is not a disability. With the easy spread of Covid-19 in a confined environment, that suit would have no merit.
scout614
Geoff Gulliver 1
Airlines are exempt from ADA
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 3
To a point. They still have to make accomodations for boarding passengers with disabilities as well as helping them get to the gate. The ACAA sets different rules as well. They are allowed to ask for certain things, especially when it pertains to service/support animals.
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 2
That would fall to the AIRPORT to handle that, which is the public place, not the AIRLINE. Once you leave the jetway and enter the aircraft, the ADA's jurisdiction ends, as you've left the airport (the public place) and entered the aircraft (the private company).
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
It is the airlines that are required to help passengers with disabilities through the airport:

https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/wheelchair-and-guided-assistance


"Assistance at the Airport

When a passenger with a disability requests assistance from an airline to move through the airport, the airline is required to promptly provide the requested assistance. This assistance may be guide assistance for an individual who is blind or wheelchair assistance for an individual with a mobility impairment. To receive such assistance, the passenger must self-identify to airline staff at the airport as the person with a disability needing this service."
millibar100
Miguel Otero 34
About time! Awesome! All airlines need to do the same. PERIOD!
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
You took the words right out of my mouth.
DaveIsaacs
David Isaacs 5
737man
737man -1
How boring is your life that you think this is important and necessary change?
ferminbf
ferminbf 2
Does it mean there´re not gonna be more served meals on aircraft?
kerimparrot
Mike Williams 2
In these comments, there are many service animals like guide dogs that are not "liked". I have seen several small horses are used due to some groups, not "liking" dogs. Then these horsed are permitted on commercial airplane flights.
As a silly teenager, we made up Rider Dog for the Lame in a community that had a school for Seeing Dogs for the Blind.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 3
If a fifty cent surgical mask blocks a biohazard, why were we wearing a $200 biohazard mask during general quarters on a Navy aircraft carrier?
SCOTTGILFOIL
SCOTT GILFOIL 5
I think it's because the pentagon buys 95 cent masks for $200.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 3
These were not surgical masks. They are full-face masks with respirators and high density filters.
SCOTTGILFOIL
SCOTT GILFOIL 1
Got it. Thanks!
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
I was a grunt a long time ago. Masks
Helped with tear gas . Not Agent Orange or biochem
War exposures or atomic and
Nuclear weapons exposures. Or the combinations with vaccines
That may or
May not be in our
Medical records.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 2
It depends on the substance and how it enters the body. Inhalants would be covered which is the primary issue with COVID-19. It can infect through your eyes as well which is why you are not protected by the mask you wear and it's not stopping enough from others to protect you from them.
aknorris
aknorris 6
That's just fine. Now do away with all service animals and "emotional support animals" on flights as well.
If medical conditions can be ignored to enforce masks, then they can be ignored to keep furry creatures off the aircraft, too.
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 19
You lost me here. My wife is legally blind and has a guide dog. Per the Air Carrier Access Act, airlines have to accommodate for service animals.

Now, emotional Support Animals? You need to read the law and have the airlines enforce that law, because the airlines have the right through that law option to refuse them onboard, let alone require the person with the ESA to provide documentation. All you need to do is get the airlines to exercise the rights they already have.

But for a guide dog leading someone who is blind? Not going to happen unless you want to give your eyes to the blind person because you want to have their eyes taken from them.
aknorris
aknorris 4
First, yes, I do fully understand the difference between service dog vs. "emotional support" animal as the law describes it; and, I think "support" animals should be banned outright.

Regardless of that though -- with no ill intent toward you or your wife -- you should read my post carefully again, because I think you've missed the point.

Why is it valid for airlines to ignore medical conditions in order to require masks, but it is not valid for them to ignore medical conditions (e.g. blindness) with regard to animals on board aircraft.

By the way, my child is asthmatic and severely allergic to dogs -- likely including your seeing eye dog -- so this is not a totally academic question. Given my family flying vs. your family flying on any given day in an aircraft, what is the solution?
DaveIsaacs
David Isaacs 7
You both make good points. I would be interested in knowing some examples of "valid" medical conditions for not wearing a mask.. As for the service animals, other than allergies how could they adversely affect other passengers? As for as exemptions for wearing mask I would want a doctor's note. I would also want the airline to run a test for coronavirus. People allergic to an animal could be moved as far as possible from the animal or the animal could be moved. I don't think moving a person without a mask would work unless the plane was lightly loaded and they could be moved much more than the 6 foot minimum. I also realize the air circulation system of the aircraft plays a role in this. I think we need to have Solomon make a judgement on this one.
cyberjet
cyberjet 15
There are none. If The cystic fibrosis patient I know - the one with 40% lung efficiency - can wear a mask when they go to their office job each day, and my mother-in-law with asthma and COPD can wear one for her medical appointments, then so can everyone else.
ZooJose
Tim Payne -7
What you think doesn't matter...what matters is the law, and Alaska is outside of the law with this rule.
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 5
Actually, you are wrong here. The Air Carrier Access Act does give them that right to dictate that type of service on their airline.

On top of that, SCOTUS also affirmed that right, in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, back in 1905. Read up on that case, and you'll see that you are wrong in your assertion.
jhakunti
Jayden Hakunti 2
if your son is allergic to dogs he could wear a mask, sit seperately, or take a different flight. but ada law does not allow the removal of a service animal due to an allergy.
ZooJose
Tim Payne -5
Way to completely miss the point.
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 1
I have not missed the point. He stated they needed to "do away with ALL service animals". A guide dog guiding someone who is blind is a service animal. But no biggie. When you are ready to pull your eyeballs out of your sockets and give them to someone who is blind so they can see, then we'll do away with the service animals. I mean, in all fairness, if you are going to take away the "eyes" of the blind, it is only fair that you give the blind yours in return.

Now, for "Emotional Support animals", I'll quote it again, straight from the Air Carrier Access Act.

https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/service-animals-including-emotional-support-animals

Under the Air Carrier Access Act (ACAA) a service animal is any animal that is individually trained or able to provide assistance to a person with a disability; or any animal that assists persons with disabilities by providing emotional support. DOCUMENTATION MAY BE REQUIRED OF PASSENGERS NEEDING TO TRAVEL WITH AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT OR PSYCHIATRIC SERVICE ANIMAL.

What kind of documentation can be required of persons travelling with emotional support animals and psychiatric service animals?

Airlines may require documentation that is not older than one year from the date of your scheduled initial flight that states:

1. You have a mental or emotional disability that is recognized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM);

2. You need your emotional support or psychiatric support animal as an accommodation for air travel and/or for activity at your destination;

3. The individual providing the assessment is a licensed mental health professional and the passenger is under his/her professional care; and

3a. The licensed health care professional’s;

3b. Date and type of professional license; and

3c. Jurisdiction or state in which their license was issued.

In plain spelled out English for you. And this goes for everybody. This is codified law. The airlines HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR DOCUMENTATION for an emotional support animal. If the passenger can not or refuses to provide it, THE AIRLINE CAN REFUSE SERVICE FOR THAT PASSENGER AND THAT ANIMAL. You want to get the airlines to do away with ESAs? Have them ENFORCE THE DAMNED LAW.
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker -5
Enter HIPPA. I’m tired of able bodied people bitching and giving anecdotal Information. Walk in our shoes, or roll with us if you can. The world has no right to know my medical information. We often overcome more obstacles just getting up and ready for the day than you will never understand. That being said I try to be respectfull if anyone is having problems. As for the pulmonary guy, how much experience does he have multiple chemical syndrome? I have 5 neurologists. They apologize for not being to help more in a new field. It impacts my pulmonary functions.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 3
HIPPA rules do not apply to Airlines.

Entities that have to follow HIPPA:

Health plans

Health care clearinghouses

Health care providers who conduct certain financial and administrative transactions electronically. These electronic transactions are those for which standards have been adopted by the Secretary under HIPAA, such as electronic billing and fund transfers.

https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/faq/190/who-must-comply-with-hipaa-privacy-standards/index.html
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
Any medical information would come from the VA for
me as verification which involves HIPPA. Second, unless the person requesting the information is qualified in the fields concerning the affected areas to be able to make qualified observations, and then only after discussion with my doctors, any decision may qualify as medical malpractice.
CCW1
John Prukop -6
Ah, but the ADA does apply and it's a HEFTY fine for even the first violation!

Besides the American's with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. § 12101), it seems you've forgotten all about the 4th AMENDMENT to the U.S. Constitution. It's in the BILL OF RIGHTS along with the 1st and 2nd Amendment.

ARTICLE IV:"THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED..."

And then there's the 5th AMENDMENT: NO PERSON SHALL... be DEPRIVED OF LIFE, LIBERTY, OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW..."

The Constitution is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND and it lays out fully what Government powers were authorized by We the People to the Legislative, Judicial and Executive branches. Anything other than those powers enumerated in the Consitution are STRICTLY reserved via the 9th and 10th Amendment to the people and/or the several States of the Union. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS.

Moreover, Executive Orders are orders via the Executive Branch to its administrative organs and are NOT applicable to the People. Only CONGRESS makes Laws, or the individual Legislative bodies of the States.

And the Constitution DOES NOT CEASE TO EXIST when you hop aboard an Alaska Airlines plane or cross the threshold into a COSTCO or Wal-Mart store. So who's zoomin' who?

Better have a look at the U.S. Criminal Code, and specifically 18 USC 241 "CONSPIRACY AGAINST RIGHTS" and 18 USC 242 "DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW."

Every one of these entities making up rules and requiring one to wear a MASK under the pretext of a "VIRUS" is asking for trouble - if the Sheople wake-up in time to take them to task.

HOW MUCH IS YOUR LIBERTY AND FREEDOM WORTH TO GO ABOUT UNMOLESTED - WEARING ALL OF YOUR UNALIENABLE AND ENFORCEABLE CONSTITUTIONALLY SECURED RIGHTS?
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 6
You apparently are not aware to the LIMIT of your "UNALIENABLE AND CONSTITUTIONALLY SECURED RIGHTS." Again:

The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction DOES NOT IMPORT AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT IN EACH PERSON TO BE, AT ALL TIMES AND IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, WHOLLY FREED FROM RESTRAINTS. THERE ARE MANIFOLD RESTRAINTS TO WHICH EVERY PERSON IS NECESSARILY SUBJECT FOR THE COMMON GOOD. On any other basis, organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy. Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others. This court has more than once recognized it as a fundamental principle that

"persons and property are subjected to all kinds of restraints and burdens, in order to secure the general comfort, health, and prosperity of the State, of the perfect right of the legislature to do which no question ever was, or upon acknowledged general principles ever can be, made so far as natural persons are concerned."

- Justice John Marshall Harlan, United States Supreme Court

The case was Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 1905. Justice Harlan wrote the MAJORITY opinion, in which this case was rules 7-2.

Your rights have limits, regardless of what you think. Additionally, the ADA would apply if the airline was a public building or entity. IT IS A PRIVATE COMPANY, in which the ADA would not apply. The Air Carrier Access Act does apply, and it gives the airlines THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Every single word you said above is a crock, and it would help and serve you better to do better research before posting.
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
The ADA applies as the law of the land. Are there accomodation issues? Absolutely. But to state unequivocally that they do not apply is absurd. The TSA is required to assist disabled veterans upon request. No letters, no certifications, etc other than your VA Health card. I am happy for the individual with restricted lung capacity he is not affected. There are a myriad of reasons why others are affected. Arbitrarily ignoring their health issues is arrogant and incorrect.
CCW1
John Prukop 1
By the way Brad Littlejohn, that Jacobson v. Massachusettes MAJORITY opinion you rely upon for your position is LOADED with obiter dicta and does NOT have the FORCE OF LAW.The case was decided on the very fine line of payment of a fine. Mr. Jacobson relied upon the full panoply of unalienable rights as secured by the Constitution. Yes, he paid a $5.00 fine - BUT HE DID NOT TAKE THE VACCINE!
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
It is time to put up, or shut up. You need to post your proof that all rights cannot be regulated even though it has been stated time and again, that they can be. From Heller V. Washington S.C.:

"2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues."

This fall in line with Jacobson v. Massachusettes. Such rulings have been made time and again. Where is your proof that states otherwise?
CCW1
John Prukop -4
Oh MY! You have fallen into the trap. You are sorrily wrong. The Jacobson v. Massachusetts case you cite was predicated ONLY on the fine line of paying a fine! You could still refuse the vaccine. The Constiution and unalienable RIGHTS WIN AGAIN! Go read the case again, have a shot of bourbon, and we'll talk later Keemosabe. In the meantime, giddy up with your New world Order SLAVE MASK and impress all your friends that you too want to suffer from lack of Oxygen, increase your Co2, rebreathe your own putrid bacteria that your lungs are trying to expel - and ultimately succumb to acute hypercapnia. Wow, what a way to go....
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
So, if all rights cannot be restricted, explain why I need to pass a background check, and multiple times at that, to buy firearms, and am restricted from buying completely automatic weapons (think a Thompson sub-machine gun or an M60 LMG)? Why can I not yell fire in a crowded theater?

Airlines, operating within the law can mandate masks, as well as when, and for how long, they have to be worn while on an aircraft. If Alaska, United, Delta and AA all say that a mask is required on their flights, then they are within the law to state such.
CCW1
John Prukop -2
You must be a late blossom in the off-spring department. You need to do some research, but the short answer is this: You still can't yell fire in a theatre, but unlike a fire that exists, a virus does not exist outside the human body, therefore a MASK isn't going to save your arse, because the real vector at work is electro-magnetic millimeter waves, i.e., 60GHz 5G... not a non-existent virus.

Prior to the 1968 Gun Control Act, you could buy ANY kind of weapon you want. There were no "background checks" or registration. You could even flick through the pages of the Sears & Roebuck catalog, pick out your weapon,and they'd mail your firearm to you through the U.S. Postal Service. NO BIG DEAL.

But Government ALWAYS wants to increase its powers, all the while making it look constitutional. The 1968 Gun Control Act does not pass Constitutional muster, primarily because it is an INFRINGEMENT on the 2nd Amendment. But with a stacked court and infiltration of our offices of public trust to make sure they DO NOT FUNCTION as they were intended, and others making choices for you to pick from the lesser of two evils, the stage was set. But even before that, back in 1913, there were fundamental changes made, such as the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Act, the 16th Amendment and the 17th Amendment, all of which changed our guaranteed Republican Form of Government under Article IV, Section 4, to a complex DUMBocracy.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and while the Sheople were distracted by the Viet Nam Police Action and the drugging of America and other political machinations,the CIA and the military industrial complex along with Lyndon Baines Johnson and others conspired and killed a President to foment their AGENDA, and now you're living under it in the Land of the FEE and Home of the SLAVE, completely INVERTED from how it's supposed to be: LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE!

Policy and mandates are NOT law and do not trump the Constitution. PERIOD. Only our elected members of Congress and of the Legislatures of the several States of the Unio are authorized by the People to make law, irrespective of how you believe the table is currently being set. The airlines, already in a terrible state, are going to suffer further blows from the numerous lawsuits against them that are in the pipeline for INFRINGING on Constitutionally secured RIGHTS.

Remember, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of Government, the LEGISLATIVE, the EXECUTIVE and the JUDICIAL. And NONE of these three branches can EXCEED the limits of their authorized powers under the U.S. and State Constitutions, which exhibit the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
The case that has been cited deals with other bodies of government's ability to create or set laws. While its main purpose is the fine, it shows that a city can set its own laws in regards to a health crisis and fine people over it (and that NYC and other major cities are fining people for not wearing masks or quarantining).

"There is, of course, a sphere within which the individual may assert the supremacy of his own will and rightfully dispute the authority of any human government, especially of any free government existing under a written constitution. But it is equally true that in every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand." states Justice Harlan.

Now, time and again, the SoCUS have stated that rights can be restricted. Firearm laws date back further than 1968 with the National Firearms Act of 1934 that restricted ownership of certain types of firearms such as the Thompson mentioned above as well as shotgun barrel lengths and silencers. The case of Washington DC v. Heller affirmed that as well stating that rights can be restricted, hence we have background checks and restrictions on ownership of firearms by convicted felons. I have an ID issued by the Department of Homeland Security, that I have to pass the same background check that is needed to purchase a firearm, that gets me into ports, nuclear powerplants (have to pass another background check there as well) and other restricted areas, yet I cannot use that as proof of identity or background, to buy firearms.

There is a big difference between a right and a privilege. While the right to travel in the US is inalienable, the means of conveyence is not a right. Same with this forum. Airlines and this website are private entities and they are allowed to set policies in regards to their use. FA could state that no political, religious or foul language is allowed in the discussions here. While there are laws that dictate what airlines can and cannot do, they do not prevent them from requiring a mask to board, and stay on board, an aircraft that they own.

The Jacobson case deals with a government being able to set rules and regulations, but does not touch on a private business's ability to set rules that protect their employees, as well as other paying passengers.
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
Good observation. But at the same time they can not contravene the law.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
Airlines requiring a mask to fly does not break the law, nor does asking for a note from a doctor explaining the medical reasons for not being able to, same as asking for documentation in relation to a support animal.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 5
Wow, get out of the house much?

These private businesses set the rules for behavior on their property. I.E. No shoes, No shirt => No Service. No constitutional issues are breached. The only thing that is added to this list is no mask => No service.

The state level orders are just that, state level and have been well vetted over the years as being legal.

You and your like should sign legal papers stating that you refuse any medical assistance when you get the virus - and you will get the virus. You do not have the right to infect those around you.
CCW1
John Prukop -6
A typical response from those suffering under the COVIDOCRACY. You have a LOT of catching up to do. Please start with that Lew Rockwell piece I just posted up at the top of this thread. BTW, I'm outside all the time getting plenty of FRESH AIR and natural Vitamin D from the Sun and I have NEVER worn a mask nor will I. A mask does NOT protect me or you from any "virus." That is total lunacy.

Search out Dr. Thomas Cowan, MD on YouTube and let him inform you what a virus IS and ISN'T because you're thinking on this matter has obviously been propagandized by the TEL-A-LIE-VISION box. They can lie to you 24/7 because Obummer repealed the "SMITH MUNDT ACT."

Here's another link to understand what a virus is and isn't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrfdZgTagY
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 4
Lew Rockwell is a crackpot.

Lew Rockwell is a website that promotes conspiracies, pseudoscience and fringe economic theories. Lew Rockwell uses minimal loaded words in their headlines and articles, but they typically source to far right or questionable sources such as Brietbart, Zerohedge and the #1 purveyor of pseudoscience Joseph Mercola. Some of the topics you will find on the website are those related to anti-vaccination propaganda, Mind Control, False Flags, and anti-immigration articles from other questionable sources. Further, the Lew Rockwell website has been placed on the Hatewatch list by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A factual search also reveals that Lew Rockwell has a very poor track record with fact checkers. For more information I recommend, RationalWiki who has done a fantastic job of putting all of it together.

Please get help.
CCW1
John Prukop -1
I guess you don't really KNOW who or what MORRIS DEES and the Southern Poverty Law Center is really all about. You need to dig a little deeper digging and remove your rose colored glasses because they're blocking your view! Get outside for a day of Vitamin D in the Sun FIRST, because all indications are that besides the rose colored glasses, you have TOO MUCH "sun-screen" on.
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
The Southern Law Center is only held in high regard by themselves and some supporters. Indeed, look who they are and where they get their funding from.
CCW1
John Prukop 0
By the way, have you ever thought, "Gee, I wonder WHY Trump hasn't re-instated the Smith-Mundt Act... what's up with that? Like I said earlier, you have a LOT of catching up to do. Oh, and if the airlines are truly PRIVATE, as another writer states, then how is it the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, i.e., the FAA, regulates what they can and cannot do? Hhm. Private? Really?
CCW1
John Prukop 0
Peggy Hall is from Orange County, California. She's done the legal work on masks, overturning this nonsense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILHqXUZF7p4
The Constitution is alive and well!

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AlanGlover
Alan Glover 2
Life can be cruel.

I hope you realize that the airlines' policy that says that anyone who needs assistance to deplane must wait until everyone else is off would also be applied in an emergency.

The life of a person in a wheelchair is not worth more than any other and in an emergency, untold others could be lost while the crew aids a wheelchair bound passenger first.

Cruel but necessary. Right?
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
That’s dangerous ground you’re treading.
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
They do not always get the good spots, especially when those self centered meatheads who are
Not supposed to park there take the spots. Crawl home? Really? Are you disabled? If not I suggest you stifle comments like the one you just made.
djjamar
Jamar Jackson -3
Tired of eating At restaurants with dogs around. Thats just nasty
Lib4ever
Maxwell Johnson 0
Don't know much about virology, do we?
MKanzler
Mark Kanzler 1
I'm thinking it won't be long until someone files an ADA lawsuit against them.

I, for one, won't be able to fly.
When I wear a mask, it starts my skin itching. Not like just a little inconvenience,but serious irritation.

I can last a few minutes okay, an hour at a time with considerable discomfort, but after that, it starts looking like I'm having an allergic reaction, and the longer I wear the mask, the more of my body starts to itch and my skin gets a rash.

I already have skin problems (was asked if it's contagious by a manager at work once)...

My doctor is well aware of it, and wouldn't hesitate to give me a medical exclusion, if I ask for one. But I just use social distancing, and don't expose myself to places where there are a lot of people. When I go to the hardware store for a few minutes, I wear a mask. I think the effectiveness of masks is overrated, but I comply.

But now there is no way I can fly from SEA to PHL to visit my son now.
Not on Alaska anyway.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
Then this is something you should look at if you cannot wear a mask for long periods of time.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/All-3M-Products/Safety/Personal-Safety/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Powered-Supplied-Air-Respirators/Powered-Air-Systems/3M-Versaflo-TR-300-Series-Powered-Air-Purifying-Respirators/?N=5002385+8709322+8711017+8711405+8720539+8720547+8720780+8753949+3294857497&rt=r3

The downside is that they are not cheap. Failing that, if someone cannot wear a mask for long time periods, then there are other forms of travel that one can take without the need for one.
MKanzler
Mark Kanzler 1
I don't really like "special accommodations", but would ask for them to be more reasonable. Sitting in an airplane with an empty seat between me and the next person doesn't seem like a high risk situation - especially since my wife would likely be in that seat. You can put me on the emergency exit aisle so no one is in front of me. But to offer no solution because you don't believe that medical conditions which make mask wearing not feasible for that long is short sighted.

And for those of you who think it's rare that people can't wear a mask... how rare are peanut allergies? Yet they pulled them from in flight snacks.

I don't think the right to fly is limited to only enumerated medical conditions. I'm pretty sure the courts would extend that to other conditions when a lawsuit is brought to them.
zbeeblebrox
Douglas Friday 2
I would suggest perhaps that you look into something akin to an astronaut's helmet. If you wore that, it would both protect others while also allowing your "mask" to not touch your face. Win + Win.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 1
So when are you going to file the suit?

The ADA will not support you if you do not have a medical condition that is defined by a physician.

If the cotton in a mask makes you break out, just what kind of under ware do you use?
CCW1
John Prukop -4
The invisible boogie man has all of you scared! I presume you've watched a couple of "scary" Hollywood movies with their built-in "predictive programming" - movies like "ANDROMEDA STRAIN" and "CONTAGION." There's NO "virus" running around out there behind the trees waiting to attack you, nor is there a "virus" passing to someone else via a sneeze or a cough. GET REAL! CoVid-19 is a PLANNED Pyschological Warfare CONstruct with many vectors to a global financial reset. The Global Elites have been planning this for years. To get insight, take a look at the 2010 Rockefeller Foundation publication "Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development." Here's a link to that document and if you will read the section beginning on page 18, "LOCK STEP" - you will understand what's going down: http://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf

In November 2019, the World Economic Forum in New York, along with Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, John Hopkins University, the UN World Bank and the CIA initiated their planned exercise "EVENT 201." You can read about it all over the internet.

THERE IS NO VIRUS.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 3
No virus? Tell that to the 728,786 people who have died from Covid-19. 161,350 of those people are Americans.

You should be the one to wake up.
CCW1
John Prukop -2
NOBODY HAS DIED OF CORONAVIRUS. MANY HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY INTUBATION, THE MEDICAL RESULT OF WHICH IS BLOWN-OUT LUNGS. MANY OTHERS, ESPECIALLY IN NURSING HOMES HAVE BEEN MORPHINED OR DRUGGED TO DEATH - ALL UNDER THE PRETEXT OF COVID-19 THAT DOES NOT EXIST. THEY ARE PERPETRATING A MEDICAL FRAUD ON THE UNKNOWING, DUMBED DOWN POPULATION, LADEN WITH COGNITIVE DISSONANCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A VIRUS DOES NOT EXIST OUTSIDE THE HUMAN BODY. ALL OF THE NUMBERS ARE A FUDGED AND BLAMED ON COVID. AS I STATED EARLIER, I PERSONALLY CONTACTED EVERY FUNERAL HOME AND CREMATORY IN MY COUNTY AND THEY CONFIRMED THERE HAS BEEN NO UPTICK IN DEATHS FROM JANUARY TO JULY OF THIS YEAR AS COMPARED TO THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR. YOU ARE IN DENIAL OF THE FRAUD AND ARE WATCHING A TEL-A-LIE-VISION BOX WHERE THEY HAVE FREE REIGN TO LIE TO YOU 24/7 - EVER SINCE OBAMA REPEALED THE SMITH-MUNDT ACT. GO LOOK IT UP!
ZooJose
Tim Payne -7
So, I can bring on a cage full of cockroaches and say I need them for my anxiety, but a person with a proven medical condition can't fly without a mask. How pathetic this whole fraud has become.
AeroncaGuy
Rick Cowan 6
Don't understand the connection between pet cockroaches and mask wearing..or are we just inventing straw man opponents to a completely logical and reasonable requirement to protect other passengers. My daughter is flying to SFO via Alaska Airlines soon for work and I'm glad of this requirement!
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 7
I think the idea is that common sense has been thrown out the window.

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yamaha32177
CHARLES DUKE -2
Exactly@!Massive settlements coming soon and the airlines will be screaming for bailouts.
CCW1
John Prukop -5
The MASK does nothing. This is more COVIDOCRACY by Corporate America and sell-outs to the New World Order. The correct analogy is putting up a cyclone fence to keep out the Mosquitoes! Masks are fine for painting and for keeping sawdust out of your nostrils, but offer NO protection whatsoever from a so-called "virus." Plus, weating a mask lowers your Oxygen level, increases your Co2 and can cause acute Hypercapnia and other life-threatening complicaitons. Only a brainwashed SHEOPLE AKA "COVIDIOT" would wear one.

See https://thefullertoneinformer.com and 5GDANGERS.com for starters.

Also see these fullerton Informer videos recently posted on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheFullertonInformer/videos

CoVid-19 is a Pyschilogical Warfare CONstruct that lives on your TV screen.
CCW1
John Prukop -4
You're all being BOLSHEVIKED by Fraudster Fauci, Birx and Billy Geek Gates. Time to wake-up and learn the facts. First thing, turn OFF your TEL-A-LIE-VISION and unplug it. Purge that nonsense from your life.
CCW1
John Prukop -6
Here are some other videos you should all be learning from:

DOLLAR VIGILANTE: Toxic Mask-ulinity: NY & Australia Send out the Troops, Food Prices Skyrocket and Getting Out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XWLzK_v4uQ&t=388s

JOE IMBRIANO: MYSTERY ILLNESS IN SCHOOLS-THE WAR ON CHILDREN, OXYGEN -THE COMING ATTACK IN SCHOOLS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_hw7jFweMk&t=7s

AMAZING POLLY: https://www.youtube.com/c/AmazingPolly/videos

THINK ABOUT IT-WHEN YOU'RE TIRED OF THE LIES: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkAboutItNow/videos

And for those of you who thought you knew what a "VIRUS" was, see this compelling work by co-author German internal medicine Dr. Claus Kohnlein, first translated into English in 2007: "VIRUS MANIA" http://whale.to/a/virusmania.html

You're ALL in for a very rude awakening.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 4
Tighten up the tin foil hat.
CCW1
John Prukop -1
Loosen your panties and let some truth flow. You're living in bazarrio world!
PKVol
Patrick Keohane 0
If a face covering can cause "medical issues", why not wear an oxygen mask? Seems like a happy compromise.
clarify
clarify 3
Well the purpose of the face mask is to reduce the amount of virus you could emit into the air around you when you exhale. I don't think an oxygen mask does anything w.r.t. what you exhale.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
On air airliner, the mask blocks what goes out in front of you.

What happens to those who are to the side of you?
CCW1
John Prukop -3
You are NOT exhaling a "VIRUS" into the air that someone else is going to catch. That's Louis Pasteur petrie dish pseudo science. Learn what a virus is and isn't here:

https://thegnmsolution.com/virus-mania/

And let Dr. Thomas Cowan, MD, explain it vividly on video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ7Mv3thiRE

Cowan shows up at about 15:30 in, but the lead-up information is necessary to lay foundation. Be sure to watch the plants grow with WI-FI "OFF" and no plant growth with WI-ON @ 13:40 in.

A vaccine with putrid materials,mercury, aluminum and heavy metals, combined with the 5G kill-grid will result in a true pandemic. It's coming it you all don't wake-UP.

THERE IS NO VIRUS. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO AND SET-UP FOR THE SLAUGHTER OF THE SHEOPLE.
loopgroup1
Craig Northacker 1
Another disability tax and burden for the disabled who may not be able to deal with it.
yamaha32177
CHARLES DUKE -6
If the mask worked, why do we need social distancing? If social distancing worked, why do we need a mask? It's all a global hoax, the storm is coming.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 1
So 150,000+ dead people don't count in your world.
CCW1
John Prukop 1
Phil, a couple of serious questions for you. (1) Is your drinking water fluoridated? (2) How many years have you been brushing your teeth with Fluoride toothpaste?

Did you know that Fluoride is a HIGHLY TOXIC by-product of the Aluminum industry? Did you know that Fluroide is believed to be a trigger for early on-set Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dimentia?

And if you drink ANY diet drinks, did you know they're sweetened with a HIGHLY TOXIC chemical calls aspartame?

Better do your homework/research Phil and REMOVE the TOXINS from your system, or you too will become a death statistic and when they bag and tag you, they'll say you died of CoVid-19.
CCW1
John Prukop 0
Social distancing is another vector of social control. AI and facial recognition works best when people are separated. This is a tracking and control set-up to integrate AI with the 5G 60 GHz weaponized kill grid. Have you not heard of the "Wuhan Wiggle?" Chinese people in the FIRST ALL 5G roll-out city, walking along and falling over -DEAD. Not because of a VIRUS!

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CCW1
John Prukop -2
Symptomatic or Asympotomatic, makes NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever as CoVid-19 does not exist except on your TEL-A-LIE-VISION as a cartoon. there is NO VIRUS. Watch Dr. Thomas, MD, from San Francisco explain in these three videos. The first two are under 10-minutes, the second is an extended interview.

Viruses are NOT something "you can catch" – Dr Thomas Cowan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k90VVhyM8Ss


DR. THOMAS COWAN ON VIRUSES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQsY-usQwCM

Solving the Woohan FiveG Mexican Beer Virus Mystery With Dr. Thomas Cowan #273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84lS19jqeg


Other of Dr. Cowan's videos are located here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/DrTomCowan/videos

Hope this all helps you to understand what a TOTAL FRAUD that Trump, Fauci, Birx and Gates are pulling on the American people!
CCW1
John Prukop -6
Oh Boy! Pass the laughing GAS please! I conducted a survey last month of ALL the funeral homes and the crematoriums in my county and NOT one of those entities reported ANY uptick in deaths in 2020 over the same January thru July period of 2019. Propaganda is TOUGH to overcome when it's buttressed by years of television programming and cognitive dissonance. I feel very sorry for you.
yamaha32177
CHARLES DUKE -6
Wow, lawsuits abound, we will see a multitude of lawsuit settlements over this flu hoax.
MichaelFoster
Michael Foster -1
So. Does this also apply to service dogs, goats, pigs, turkeys?
Planes are filled with "FAKE" service animals, and FA's and GA's are charged with determining legitimacy. Using the new mask rule logic, does this also apply to service animals? No medical exemptions for animals?
CCW1
John Prukop -5
Here, LET THIS SINK IN:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/no_author/a-book-review-of-virus-mania-how-the-medical-industry-continually-invents-epidemics-making-billion-dollar-profits-at-our-expense/
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 5
Tin foil hats are out in force today.
CCW1
John Prukop -5
And YOU are apparently one of them!BRAVO - you have exposed yourself, as evidenced from your drama based colloquy from above.

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