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FAA investigating two airports where Chick-fil-A restaurants were excluded

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The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating religious discrimination claims against two airports because plans for Chick-fil-A restaurants were scrapped after complaints about the fast food chain's stance on LGBTQ issues. (www.cnn.com) עוד...

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jordanabrown
Alan Brown 42
It is interesting that CFA's stance on the LGBTQ issue is that they serve everyone, and hire everyone that qualifies for a job. They don't discriminate like these airports.

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KennyFlys
Ken Lane 7
Educate yourself! That is NOT what they give money to. All went to various kids' programs.

Only a fourth went to Christian organizations like Fellowship of Christian Athletes. The rest went to government schools and other secular organizations.

Learn what you're talking about before you start spouting your pie hole like a fool.

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KennyFlys
Ken Lane 6
If you're going to quote Wikipedia, let's get it straight:

"Policy Change:"

"In September 2012, The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA) announced that Chick-fil-A had "ceased donating to organizations that promote discrimination, specifically against LGBT civil rights." This change in policy has not been confirmed by Chick-fil-A officials. Chick-fil-A officials did state in an internal document that they "will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation."[76] In a letter from Chick-fil-A's Senior Director of Real Estate, the company states, "The WinShape Foundation is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas."[77][78]"

CFA Foundation, the company's owner, Dan Cathy, and Winshape support traditional marriage as defined in Matthew 19:4-5. If they did not follow Christ's words as taught and picked and chose what they wanted to promote, they could rightly be called hypocrites. They aren't. Cathy has been consistent all along.

And, for record, only about a forth of each year's funding from CFA Foundation goes to Christian organizations. The rest goes to secular organizations including government schools. In their last 990 filing, that was just over eight million in total. 100% of its funding is dedicated to kid's programs.

The corporation also gives out substantantial funding, including several million in student employees receiving college scholarships.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 9
And, yes. FCA does not allow membership to gays. That is their right as a Christian organization to maintain actual Christian standards as was taught.

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jbsimms
James Simms 4
Then explain why the ATL Assistant Fire Chief, who is a Christian; was fired for writing & promoting a book that said marriage was between a man & woman? The city paid dearly in a monetary way for his wrongful termination.

So far as Conservatives wanting a one way street, how is it that liberals who preach tolerance, love, & inclusiveness are the ones who get bent all out of shape & violent when it comes to people who disagree & oppose a liberals beliefs?
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 2
In this matter, you most certainly are.
krgibson
Kyle Gibson 4
Any time you make the Southern Poverty Law Center’s bad list, you must be doing something right! CFA will continue to succeed because they treat ALL people with love and respect following yes, I’ll say it “Christian principles” EVEN if they disagree with them. I hate that many many large companies donate money to planned parenthood because they think they are doing good. Sometimes I have to patronize those businesses even though I disagree with their policy unlike the radical left!
jbsimms
James Simms 2
Every Christmas, I send the splc a “Merry CHRISTmas” card & also to the ACLU, Freedom From Religion Foundation, CAIR, & several other like organizations.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
The SPLC is a joke. Their credibility is that of a cockroach. They'll call anything conservative a hate group.
Naemuti
Emily Leighton -2
If the jackboot fits...
jimquinndallas
Jim Quinn 20
The one thing that I've not seen in these posts is that even with all the vitriol against CFA, at least a couple of polls have indicated that CFA is the number one fast food restaurant chain in the U.S. (Sorry--I don't have time to provide the links.) This is with full public knowledge that CFA has always closed its restaurants on Sundays. Apparently the public as a whole supports that corporate decision. The public WANTS the product and can accept that they won't be able to get it on Sundays.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 12
Exactly. The customers are happy even though the owners wanted it like that. They also have probably the best customer service in all fast food restaurants. One day out of the week is nothing for customers who appreciate those things.
Foxtrot789
Foxtrot789 6
This is great news, the FAA must be completely done reviewing the '37 MAX if they have the time for this shit.
N8430G
Dennis Seel 11
Alan Brown has it right. From what I've seen at CFA, all customers are welcome at all times and at all locations. And for Brian James - we all enjoy the right to chose who we work for - people can choose who they will work for and for whatever they're reason.
bcfd29
Pete Schecter 3
How is this relevant to an aviation forum? How is this relevant to the FAA's mandate as it has nothing to do with the AOA or AIRSIDE OPS?
lynx318
lynx318 1
sconklan
sconklan 13
It's about time the government began enforcing discrimination law. Companies and people are free to hold any views they like but in the business realm they must not discriminate against their customers and that includes lessees.
jbsimms
James Simms -2
Well you could safely bet the house the last Administration’s lackeys wouldn’t have lifted a finger to look into much less done anything abt what’s happened in these two instances; then again maybe for a “price”. The airport’s may have even had additional monies given to them for their stances & an award given.
yr2012
matt jensen 12
Smokescreen on lgbtq-x-y-z. CFA is not open on Sunday PERIOD. It's the religious thing that the owner and founder wanted. None of their restaurants are open on Sunday. That's their perogative.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 26
Hey, they wanted it that way and they are still one of the best fast food places to get good food that isn't covered with grease.
linbb
linbb 2
Damn straight should be up to the owner they own and operate it not social media or the government. People need to get over themselves and live there life rather than getting all worked up about something that's not even up to them. Move out of the US and to China.

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KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 5
I really don't get your point here.. sorry. And why so appropriate.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 3
inappropriate i mean. Definitely not the usual and definitely not the cleanest of comments.
bdjam
Brian James -7
People believe the issues with the fast food restaurant are a "difference of opinion" or that they have "their right to believe what they want." The problem is that they put their profits into gay conversion therapy, which does not work and damages the people who are put through it. And they support this with a cherry picked statement from the bible.

Right, the graphic comment is on purpose so that people understand that this isn't just about a difference of opinion. The fast food company is also hypocritical in that the same passage they use to support the implementation of torture also condemns adultery but they apparently have an issue with that.

Bottom line? FAA should mind it's own business - which they don't seem to be able to do very well.
lynx318
lynx318 4
FAA were dragged into this because Delaware North, the company controlling the airport restaurants that excluded CFA, has taken a strange stance on issues that aren't business relevant. Anyway this is a can of worms that doesn't need to be here in a Flightaware forum.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Once again, you're showing what a fool you are.

The issue with the FAA is discrimination based on religion among a number of other protected classes. They require the same of contractors across the board.
rwb2112
rwb2112 5
I remember when this happened here, all they had to do was say we need a restaurant that is open on Sunday like the airport, which they tried to say after the fact. This statement on the airport website is comical at best.
https://www.sanantonio.gov/Council/d1/News/PressReleases/ArtMID/26849/ArticleID/15246/Councilman-Roberto-Trevi241o%E2%80%99s-statement-regarding-airport-concession-agreement-with-Paradies-Lagard232re
"Everyone has a place here, and everyone should feel welcome when they walk through our airport"... Except if you have a camera and take pictures of aircraft, lol.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 12
One more tidbit of education:

So, a PRIVATELY held company's owners are devout Christians and don't hide it. They abide by Christ's teaching in Matthew 19:4-5.

I guess you liberal idiots would have greater respect if they threw out that verse in Christ's teachings thereby showing themselves as hypocrites.

Of course, then they would fit right in with you liberals... the kings of hypocrisy.

Oh, one more thing... Recall a year or so ago when Atlanta Hartsfield lost all power and it essentially shut down the entire airport? Guess what local corporation came in on a Sunday, set up all the equipment and provided foot to all the travelers when no one else could? Dan Cathy, the CFA CEO, came in personally and assisted in distributing food to passengers, all for free.

Then when The Pulse, a gay night club, was attacked, what business came in during the middle of the night and provided food to first responders and victims?

Numerous times during disasters, bad weather and other events, CFA has come through. The only other company I can think of that has done as much is Whataburger.

But, because its owner believes and stated he believes in traditional marriage, you liberals CHOOSE to hate them. Sad. Absolutely sad.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2017/12/18/chick-fil-delivered-food-atlanta-airports-stranded-passengers-sunday/961247001/

Then there's this:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_2564379

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KennyFlys
Ken Lane 2
You seem to be the petulant child who fails to understand the law.
jbsimms
James Simms 0
Yet explain why several years ago when Chick Fil A came under fire for their supposed anti LGBT-whatever views, they broke by a country mile a single day sales record?
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 5
Compare them to Target who took a hit on sales as well as a 25% hit on market cap which shows shareholder confidence.

By comparison, CFA went the other direction with a 12% spike in sales. And, they've not lost it.

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Naemuti
Emily Leighton -7
I remain remarkably unconcerned with your God.
N99MK
N99MK 2
But you will one day
jbsimms
James Simms -3
H3ll has open borders, Heaven has a wall.....
rockportflyer
rockportflyer -4
Get behind me Satan.
willardk
WIllard Kramer -3
Using the word of god to bully a woman. You are the the one emulating satan bezzelbubb Trump has you.
DeanDubach
Dean Dubach 6
really, wasting my tax dollars on an FAA investigation????? How about sticking with flight, airport and aircraft safety.
n50wl
Andy Maw 5
Those airports use huge amounts of federal dollars to operate
SamPhillips
Sam Phillips 3
I have read that the FAA is so short of resources that it cannot properly oversee Boeing to build aeroplanes and as a result allows Boeing to self certify a lot of its work! Now I read this article that tells me the FAA is investigating airports because they exclude Chick-fil-A restaurants! Where is this world headed?
n555cf
rbt schaffer 3
WOW, plenty enough whack-nuts pro and con here. Keep your airplanes in the air, and your beliefs in church... or wherever. And please don't freak out like that professional PE engineer in VA Beach.
AAaviator
AAaviator 5
The grievance culture and outrage addicts are thriving! Dig up whatever unsavory linkage you can find, glom onto the most tangential, turn it into a straw-man sledge hammer and beat the crap out of someone (or some business). Sadly, it would have been far more acceptable and less controversial had Mr. Cathy donated money to organizations that kill babies. The bottom line to me is twofold: 1) tolerance is NOT a one way street, and 2) Chick-fil-A has the best chicken sandwiches! People need to chill...
Naemuti
Emily Leighton -7
Well, thank god it's not an organization that "kills babies" (we all know you mean Planned Parenthood), it's merely an organization that tortures children.
AAaviator
AAaviator 2
that doesn't make any sense
willardk
WIllard Kramer -1
CFa supports with money groups that believe electroshock cures the gay.
willardk
WIllard Kramer 1
CFA condones and supports the torture of gay identifying children up till age 18.
strickerje
strickerje 1
That’s a pretty outlandish claim - got any sources to support it?
willardk
WIllard Kramer -2
They fund groups that practice conversion therapy. Torture. Bite me.
strickerje
strickerje 3
You’ve just repeated the same assertion without providing any sources. I’ll assume from the personal attack that you don’t have any, so I’m done here.
jbsimms
James Simms 2
Nope. Don’t want to catch anything
rhirsch
Robert Hirsch 3
If the city Counsel feels so strongly they should close all 28 CFA's in their politically correct city, The only ones "hurt" here are those that love CFA, their products and their fabulous corporate culture.
jbsimms
James Simms 3
Saw the other day, a Chick Fil A manager changed a customers tire that went flat while waiting in the drive through. Let’s see any of the Mickey D’s Hardee’s/Carl Jr’s, or any other fast food employee do that. They wouldn’t do that even if they were being overpaid @ $15/hour.
RexHeyns
Rex Heyns -2
Better to let everybody assume your a fool than open your mouth and prove it.

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rbj100
Rich Johnstone 2
Who eats that crap, anyway?
ErnestoTekhaus
ErnestoTekhaus 2
Este es un tema muy delicado.
liko2k
Jakub Bialek 1
But what is it all about?? This article is cryptic :/
Wsewell365
William Sewell 1
Why not just not eat at Chick Filets?
lbhorton
Larry Horton 1
Here is the issue. A community has made a decision through their elected officials that this is the policy they want. No CFA for their express reason. An agency of the federal government is attempting to usurp local control. This is happening much to often where state and federal agencies are attempting to remove power from the local level and concentrate it at the national and state levels. Not what was intended by the framers of the constitution and was in fact one of the causes of the revolution. Seems that the FFA has their hands full lately trying to ensure safe air travel and should be concentrating on that.
strickerje
strickerje 3
Local policy still can’t violate federal law. There’s decades of precedent allowing for this.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Actually, you would be wrong. It wasn't the community that decided it. It was purely the San Antonio city council.

Actually, the stupidity along with an idiot mayor caused the mayoral election to turn into a run-off when previously had it sealed.
lbhorton
Larry Horton 1
As I SAID the community through their ELECTED officials decided. And, as I have seen no particular opposition from the community it looks as if it is a non issue in San Antonio at least. Plus their election drama had nothing to do with my comment. So I am not wrong.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
The "community" did not decide against CFA. The liberal mayor and city council did.

The community or citizens responded by costing the mayor a much easier election win.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
I wonder if San Antonio would appreciate losing money for the airport due to their stance? It makes it hard to attract other businesses without a good airport.
lbhorton
Larry Horton 1
You mean the federal government would withhold the tax money that the citizens paid them to maintain the airport? Humm doesn't sound right to me. People have 4 pockets. Out of one pocket comes municipal taxes, out of another county, another state and another federal. Now guess where all the money for the airport come from. A community has a right to decide these things and if the government wants to argue the point it is time to throw them all out and start over.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 3
The FAA fined Chicago after the duly elected mayor there carved up and closed Meigs Field without proper authorization. Residents had to pay twice. Any government agency cannot discriminate against anyone for their religious beliefs. CFA does not discriminate on who it hires (remember CFA uses a franchise model) or serves. All are welcome.
skydvrboy
skydvrboy 3
I'm not sure you understand how airports are funded. The construction and maintenance of anything flying related is funded on 90% grants through the FAA. The way that works, the local government puts up 10% of the funds and the federal government provides the other 90% through a grant. Along with this grant comes "grant assurances" part of which require the airport to be non-discriminatory. If the airport does not comply with the grant assurances, not only do they lose any future federal funding, they must pay a prorated amount for the grant money previously collected for projects that have not reached the end of their useful life. For an airport like San Antonio, that is several millions of dollars to repay.

birtsjoe
Joe Birts 1
Terminals are generally built with mostly local funds and generate monies for the local entity. Grants pay for runways, control towers, etc.
lynx318
lynx318 1
Did anyone read the article? Delaware North, the company controlling the airport restaurants are the ones excluding CFA, not the community, local council or government agencies.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
Are they not working as the city's agent? As long as a government hires someone to act on their behalf, they have to follow the laws as well.
glenhorton
Glen Horton 2
No, in San Antonio it was the mayor and city council. They quickly changed their reason to "they can't get waffle fries on Sunday". What a joke these people are.
lynx318
lynx318 2
If true than that is wholly a local politics issue and confirms what I said earlier, this isn't relevant to flights or the airport operations and thus should not be here on Flightaware forums.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
There is politics in every aspect of aviation and the FAA.

How do you think the changes came about for 121 requirements?
lynx318
lynx318 2
This is not directly an aviation issue.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
It's closer such than many things I've seen discussed here.

But, I'm glad it came up. It shows me who the bigots and idiots are.
lynx318
lynx318 1
I hope you haven't included me in there.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Naemuti
Emily Leighton 0
I agree, this article has brought to light all of the people who think the same way you do.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane -1
Yes, I was referring to you. Your ignorance of the entire event going all the way back to Cathy first making the comment in a PRIVATE setting is more than clear. Your disdain for Christians or anyone with religious beliefs is quite clear.

If you were my flight student and I saw such attitudes I'd dump you in a heartbeat because you appear to lack one.
Naemuti
Emily Leighton 1
This wouldn't come up during flight training because the first rule is always fly the plane. But we're not flying a plane right now, we're in an internet comment section.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
So many of you are proving yourself ignorant fools. Good grief! I hope like hell you're flying airplanes with just as much ignorance and stupidity.

The FAA abides by Title VI. That includes any airport that receives funding by federal tax dollars. All such airports are required to comply.

Here... Educate yourselves!

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/acr/policy_law_regulation/
philonous
Payam Minoofar 0
Hmmmm...... Excluding The likes of CFA and McDonalds is more a matter of taste than anything else. It comes as no surprise that CFA would use any fulcrum to serve its food. Don’t municipalities have the right to say we don’t want our airport to serve crap food?
KennyFlys
Ken Lane -1
Crap food, eh?

It's probably at the top of all best performing companies and its franchisees do very well.

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aberstruct
aberstruct 11
Robert, then you must applaud the FAA for standing up for this type of discrimination, even though this discrimination is not what you are interested in standing up for.
jmadunleavy
John D 17
Can you report on any describe any discrimination by CFA? I am not aware of any. Disapproval does not equal discrimination.
bdjam
Brian James -5
so it might be a good idea to do a little research before you post. The fast food company directs part of it's profit to organizations that promote gay conversion therapy and other anti-gay causes. It's not a matter of disapproval, it's a matter of supporting organizations that try to electrocute people into being straight. You should give it a try so you know what people forced into conversion therapy go through. Then come back here and tell us if you think this company's donations are to a worthy cause.

In the meantime, the FAA is certifying planes that shouldn't be in the air.
jmadunleavy
John D 1
But, where is the discrimination?
w7psk
Ricky Scott 6
To ultra libs if you do not comply and think exactly like them
you are racists, homophobic, mysogenic and a host of other names they call

Its funny, they think anyone with any conservative thoughts as not sees but yet they have the brown shirts running around intimidating anyone who dares to think differently.
bdjam
Brian James 2
There's a difference between opposite opinions and funding torture. If you can't understand that, it's not a matter of homophobia...it's a matter of inhumanity.
bdjam
Brian James 0
Seriously? Where's the discrimination? It doesn't happen in the stores because they want the money to keep coming across the counter. It happens when they take their profits and pour it into anti-gay organizations so that those organizations can do the dirty work while the fast food company looks like they are clean.
jmadunleavy
John D -1
That's not discrimination. Pouring money? Hardly. Less than $2m. And its a stretch to call Fellowship of Christian Athletes and the Salvation Army anti-gay organizations. They freely admitted that they stopping giving to an organization is Atlanta.
Many people disapprove of certain behaviors and lifestyle it doesn't make them bigots or bad people because some don't get the affirmation from all quarters of society. Grow up.
Naemuti
Emily Leighton -1
It never stops at mere "disapproval", though. They are unable to agree to disagree, they try to force people to change according to their whims, and are angry when they receive pushback. So yes, they are bad people.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 3
These people are ignorant of Title VI.
andersondaniel
andersondaniel 11
Robert why don't you gulp some more of that MSNBC sweet tea. CFA has never discriminated against anything, when is a crime to believe in something as a CEO?
XKEYSCORE
Jack Johnson 6
Is it me or do I feel like flightaware is turning into another MSM news outlet. I didn't come here to see the usual twitter mob/anti-trump garbage in the comment section.
ToddBaldwin3
ToddBaldwin3 4
This one really brought out the political vitriol. You are correct, this web site is getting to be more like the reader comments page from MSM stories.
bdjam
Brian James -4
I've posted replies above, so I won't repeat myself except to say you might want to do some research before you post.
dnorthern
dnorthern 3
Perhaps you should supply a link or two supporting your claim. You made the assertion, you have the responsibility to back your claim. Until then, you are nothing more than an agenda driver without veracity.
jbsimms
James Simms 1
Because he’s anti CFA, he thinks he doesn’t have to
bdjam
Brian James 1
Or perhaps you can Google yourself

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/5/29/18644354/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-donations-homophobia-dan-cathy

https://thinkprogress.org/chick-fil-a-anti-lgbtq-donations-tax-filings-62ca15281f17/

https://www.metroweekly.com/2019/05/chick-fil-a-wont-stop-donating-to-anti-lgbtq-groups-says-its-part-of-a-higher-calling/
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 0
How about finding links that are not left-leaning bias? That's all you've presented.

But, speaking of left-leaning sites... here's another for you:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_2564379
mldavis2
Mike Davis -1
Since airports receive part of the profits of over-priced concessions, it could be a simple business decision on the part of airport management seeking a 24/7/365 occupant.
speedbird347
Derek Vaughn 5
A simple business decision?? CFA has 6 locations at four other Texas airports, alone.
wylann
wylann 2
Maybe, but THIS airport's decision was that they wanted vendors that are open 7 days a week.

I thought conservatives liked the free market?
Naemuti
Emily Leighton 0
Only when it goes their way, like everything else they support.

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kd7eir
Jim Myers 3
The issue is that the airports require ALL VENDORS to be open on Sunday, and this vendor REFUSES to comply.

Only you Russian agents/anti Christs see this as a /religious/liberal/conservative issue. If they want to have a location in the airport then they need to comply with THE SAME EXACT RULES AS ALL OTHER VENDORS.
jmadunleavy
John D 14
Nonsense. This just came up. CFA is in dozens of airports for years and its only come up now.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 4
There is no such requirement. I'm close to this issue.

It has nothing to do with their hours. Not a single thing.

The San Antonio city council made the issue about nothing but their giving funds to Christian organizations... CHILDREN'S organizations among all the SECULAR organizations.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 2
In a way I don't get why they can't open in two airports in the whole world. Yes it is their principle that they don't open on a Sunday but I guess they aren't out for extra income?
jbsimms
James Simms 2
They don’t need to be open on Sundays, just by reputation alone they can rake in the money.

Meanwhile, go to any Mickey D’s or other fast food restaurant, you’ll be lucky to get an employee that cares enough to get your order right or gives you the time of day; yet demands $15/hour because they don’t have the backbone to do what it takes (either by getting a better education leading to a better job OR by working a second or third job) to improve their lot in life.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 3
It has been their policy since the company founded. Employees can use the time as they please. There's no mandate they require employees go to church.
lynx318
lynx318 1
True, my final employer didn't open his business on Sundays, not because he wanted us to go to church but out of respect for his beliefs. That's his prerogative.
bdjam
Brian James -2
I don't get angry when I'm challenged. What would you like to talk about?
usrepeaters
Rob Palmer 0
They also do not serve Sundays, although people fly on Sundays. C'mon folks let's get up to date. At 82 I trust no churches anymore; they are all just after money for their purposes.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 3
So, to hell with the First Amendment, eh?
Fairlassie
Dorothy Kirkpatrick -1
No Person, group or corporation has the right to discriminate. The Bible (I believe) says to love everyone, does it not?
So many hypocrites in the far right ...you can’t just do one good thing and then turn around and reverse your behavior.
This is 2019, not 1950. Come on, people!!
strickerje
strickerje 4
The complaint was that Chick-Fil-A wasn’t allowed to open two airport locations for no reason other than their respective city councils objecting to the company founder’s religious views. It sounds to me as though CFA was the one discriminated against because of hypocrites on the far left, eh?

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scott8733
scott8733 11
POTUS does nothing other than make nominations for director; funding comes from Congress. As I've suggested many times over,the FAA became a toothless lion long before our current POTUS took office. That's on Congress.

To paraphrase Mark Twain, politicians (regardless of the letters behind their name) and diapers need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
tobinsparfeld
Tobin Sparfeld 8
From the article: "Federal requirements prohibit airport operators from excluding persons on the basis of religious creed from participating in airport activities that receive or benefit from FAA grant funding." So it is part of their job. And what San Antonio has done likely violates the First Amendment as it is viewpoint discrimination:

https://reason.com/2019/03/26/san-antonio-violates-chick-fil-as-first.

Many people don't like CFA for many reasons. But governments cannot keep out a business on the basis of its owners viewpoints.
louisjames
lou nagy -1
SIR: Well, if the gvt cannot keep a out a business on the basis of its owners viewpoints, then how do you explain the case in CO, recently, that a bakery (baker) refused in making a decorated cake for same sex couple for their wedding/anniversary. Wasn't that taken to court, (government) and the court won over the same sex couple. Seems to me that the government in CO WON that one!
bdjam
Brian James 0
No - the Supreme Court decided in favor of the baker because the lower courts did not properly handle the administration of the case there. It was a narrow decision applied only to this case. And it's a totally different situation
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 3
The SC ruled in the baker's favor due to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission not being impartial and went after him with a bias that they were not allowed to do. The commission is supposed to be religious neutral when deciding complaints. The baker didn't get a decision on whether or not he is or is not supposed to bake a cake for a gay couple. As you noted it was a very narrow decision. Goverment agencies cannot discriminate against people over religious beliefs.
willardk
WIllard Kramer -3
How about if a company funds the torture of children. Aka gay conversion therapy. Electroshock for children up till the age of 18. Torture in the name of god is still torture.
willardk
WIllard Kramer -3
It is not the job of the Faa to protect the speech of a company. Period. This is overreach. . CFA contributes to Hate groups and they discriminates by proxy. What do they do there pregnant or gay employees. Fire them. So cut the crap. Faa is our it’s element here. And any of you folks who claim cfa has a right to free speech. True enough. But they are not free from the accountability of that speech. Any of you donate to hate groups and expect no one to hold you accountable think again.
strickerje
strickerje 2
It turns out it is the job of the FAA to oversee airport concessions, so this isn’t overreach. Your claims against CFA regarding discriminatory hiring and firing aren’t supported by the facts. It’s pretty ironic (and frightening) to see so many people supporting government-sanctioned discrimination as a response to some perceived injustice. If you don’t like who CFA supports, feel free not to patronize them, but it’s unreasonable to expect a government institution to prevent them from operating under the guise of what you call “accountability.”
jbsimms
James Simms 4
Well, don’t you know? Libs are all for love, tolerance, & inclusiveness so long as it jives w/their beliefs. Anything other than that, they'll get violent over it.
willardk
WIllard Kramer 0
Accoumtiilty and religious hate speech. Yep. More than that they fund and support the electro shock of children. Torture. Why are my tax dollars being used to protect hate speech. Why shouldn’t any business or person hold them accountable for supporting the torture of children.
jbsimms
James Simms 1
What kind of fetish do you have abt electro shock torture? Just asking.....
strickerje
strickerje 0
Contrary to a seemingly popular belief among the left, what you guys call hate speech is protected by the first amendment. Otherwise, the first amendment would be meaningless as whichever party is in power could arbitrarily decide anything they disagree with constitutes “hate speech.”
Flightdog
Roger Curtiss 0
Another approach would be to let them open the restaurants, stage peaceful protests at the locations urging people not to make purchases there and see if that causes them to lose money and have to close down.
strickerje
strickerje 0
That was done at a number of locations when the controversy started, and I seem to recall the coverage actually increased business, or at worst had no effect. But I agree, that would be the correct course of action.
richardorgill
Richard Orgill 0
Nail their ass
richardorgill
Richard Orgill 0
Sorry, the wrong post meant this comment for another spot I was commenting on.
shenghaohan
Shenghao Han -5
My reaction:
Wait FAA have time to regulate what?!?

That aside, excluding an "anti-gay" business makes you no better than those less open-minded people. You can't fight fire with fire, and will just comes back and bite you like this article's topic
Naemuti
Emily Leighton -5
I will break out the world's smallest violin for CFA.

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jdd125
Joe Daskalakis 0
CFA hires all and serves all. My beef (chicken?) with them taking up space in a 365 day airport is that they are not a 365 day option for travelers.
eichmat
Tim Eichman 1
Maybe they could have done as they did when CFA got a contract to go into the Mercedes-Benz Stadium: on Sunday, another vendor occupies the space... https://www.businessinsider.com/chick-fil-a-mercedes-benz-stadium-closes-fries-up-sundays-super-bowl-2019-1/
glenhorton
Glen Horton 0
FlightAware, Please close this thread. Yes, it is aviation related as far as the tax $ going to these airports, but this has just become a pissing contest for the few who post arguments in multiple locations throughout this thread. Do us all a favor and give it a rest.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 0
Everyone has the right to display their own outlook on the topic, although a lot of it is bogus.
glenhorton
Glen Horton 0
Yes, I agree. But then to look through almost every post just to reply with an argument about that post... come on. Make a comment about the subject and move on. Don't look for reason to fight about every post. Bogus indeed!
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 1
Yes I agree.

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jimquinndallas
Jim Quinn 7
I guess the FAA would have had something to say to bakeries if they funded 90% of their construction, etc. Not commenting on the religious beliefs, etc. but rather that the FAA has a pretty big stake in airports.
strickerje
strickerje 3
The Colorado bakery was a private business, whereas the airport is a public institution supported by federal tax dollars, so the laws in effect are different. But in any event, the court ruled that the local board had shown bias against the bakery, without rendering any judgement on the bakery refusing service to the gay customer. So actually, siding with the bakery and with Chick-Fil-A is logically consistent.
mikehe
Mike Hindson-Evans 3
I always considered that anyone who has to capitalise more than one non-TLA word in their online diatribe is unworthy of civil consideration.

This debate has brightened my Friday afternoon on the right side of the Atlantic; thank you all, for your passionately-held opinions.

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