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An-124 in-flight upset after passing A380 led to 747 conflict

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HunterTS4
Toby Sharp -1
Lesson: Don't ever play chicken with a Vodka Burner!
joelr
Joel Rodriguez -1
A380: C'est comme ça que nous volons!

An124: Что, черт возьми!

B747: Just another day in Europe!
pilot62
Scott Campbell -1
waste of time ...............NEXT
MJFerris
Mike Ferris -1
so a An-124, a A380, and a B747 walk into a bar...
easyrider
easyrider -1
please delete this stupid gossip.
ctopanga
Cate Becker -1
possibly the worst headline ever written.
RobSJC
Clement [email protected] -1
Frankfurt Turm: „Klänge, wie es nicht nur die Vereinigten Staaten ATC ist, die auf der Aufgabe schlafen“.
RobSJC
Clement [email protected] -1
..And in English: Frankfurt Tower: "Sounds like it isn't just the USA ATC who are sleeping on the job".
larrybueno
larrybueno -1
THE WAR OF THE GIANTS!
dba74m
dba74m -1
Wish there was video
dba74m
dba74m -1
I passed 1,000 under an An-124 once on the same route, opposite direction. I was in a CRJ-700 from RNO to SLC and I gripped the control wheel in anticipation, but thankfully we never got any wake.
JENNYJET
JENNIFER JORDAN -1
I am just curious as to what standard of research took place within the ATC community and with the manufacturers regards to close proximity of the largest types in the air at the same geographical location and within a total of 3 flight levels in opposing directions?

It seems to me that this was a most rare moment in aviation and would probably not happen that often..i.e. A380's and AN124's being quite rare whilst B747's are commonplace residents of the skies! To be in the same place at the same time? A flight simmers plan me thinks....**
cabuguas1
GEOFFREY CUKRO -1
what AT Controller let 2 planes pass within 1000 feet of each other. just PLANE dumb, don't ya think???
toolguy105
toolguy105 -1
Ya know, I knew that these A380s were going to cause problems. First the engine problems almost bring them down, then it can't taxi without running into another plane at Kennedy and now this. So you think two of the biggest things to ever fly crossing paths are not going to have wake turbulence problems. This could have been the biggest air disaster in the history of flight.
dba74m
dba74m -1
Geoffrey, 1,000 feet vertical separation is standard for opposite flight paths, no controller error here.
larrybueno
larrybueno -1
GEOFFREY THE NORMAL SEPARATION IS 2000FT, BUT ABOVE FL290 IS ONLY 1000FT IT´S CALLED R.V.S.M(REDUCED VERTICAL SEPARATION MINIMUM) THIS LINK CAN HELP YOU...http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/enroute/rvsm/
JENNYJET
JENNIFER JORDAN -1
dba74m mentions flying beneath a AN124 at close quarters...am I correct in thinking the rarified atmosphere at this altitude renders wake turbulence as a minor issue than that of a collision? I am aware of near misses during the stack or on approach at major airports...LHR/LGW/STN being an example of three majors in close proximity, surely the denser atmosphere at these lower levels renders turbulence a major risk especially when you find the largest beasts in the sky eyeballing each other!!
usbikerpilot
usbikerpilot -1
An experienced (and not sleeping) ATC would have deconflicted this situation between the A380 & An-124 with momentary vectors.
dba74m
dba74m -1
Larry, 1,000 feet is normal separation below FL 290 also for opposite flight paths. Jennifer, wake is still a problem, though rare, at high altitudes, as pointed out by the article.
rwf1001
Robert Fleming -1
that is a semi-confusing story but I guess I get the jist of it!
brhett
Bobby Rhett -1
At any altitude, wake turbulence is unpredictable in actual experience. Turbulence typically descends at a slow rate and moves with prevailing winds, so a crosswind could easily cause any turbulence from the higher altitude aircraft to move out of the path of a flight 1,000 ft exactly below. OTOH, with a high wind, a flight some 2 miles distant at 1,000 feet (or more) below could encounter wake turbulence from a heavy passing above. The real danger of wake turbulence is that it is unpredictable, and often unexpected when encountered.

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