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IFR PIlots: KLN 94 Gotcha Flying RNAV GPS Y and Z Approaches
Article on a problem that can get instrument pilots in trouble flying GPS approaches with the King/Bendix KLN 94 GPS. That's the GPS found in all Cessnas built from 1997 through much of 2004. Essentially the problem is that if you're flying an approach labeled with a Y or Z letter in the title, that letter does not show up in the list of approach titles when selecting an approach on the KLN 94. (www.maxtrescott.com) More...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Thanks for the post Max!!
So the difference between Y's and Z's is the minimum?
The Z approaches usually have lower minimums. That is the idea right from the FAAs mouth. Yet there are a few TERPS built approaches that do not conform. Another function is to differentiate between RNAV(GPS) and RNAV(RNP) approaches since official ATC terminology is cleared RNAV Z XX not cleared GPS XX. Usually Z is given to (RNP) approaches for the reason above.
Usually you will see a RNAV Y approach simply have LNAV MDA minimums and a published VDP while an RNAV Z approach will be basically the same but have LPV and LNAV/VNAV DAs along with LNAV and/or LP MDA minimums which are different than the Y approach. It also allows database coders to code all the approaches. I.E. RNAV Y 25 would be coded as RNVY25 what RNAV Z 25 would be coded as RNVZ25 allowing both approaches to be flown.
Hope that helps.
Usually you will see a RNAV Y approach simply have LNAV MDA minimums and a published VDP while an RNAV Z approach will be basically the same but have LPV and LNAV/VNAV DAs along with LNAV and/or LP MDA minimums which are different than the Y approach. It also allows database coders to code all the approaches. I.E. RNAV Y 25 would be coded as RNVY25 what RNAV Z 25 would be coded as RNVZ25 allowing both approaches to be flown.
Hope that helps.
Okay and one more thing, I saw a Jeppesen Chart with the title "VOR Y or VOR Z runway XX" into Muscat, but the thing is, there was no way to identify which of the 2 ways to enter the approach was Y or Z. They were kind of 'merged' onto the same chart (an entry via a DME circle and an entry via a procedure turn) and the title said VOR Y and VOR Z
how do i differentiate between the 2 entries in this case?
how do i differentiate between the 2 entries in this case?
Its a similar concept. Same approach just one IAF was via a DME/ARC and the other was via a procedure turn. One thing to note is Muscat Oman has approaches built by PAN OPS, which is different then TERPS.
Side note, I pulled up OOMS and that approach is not in the jepp database anymore.
Side note, I pulled up OOMS and that approach is not in the jepp database anymore.
let me see if i can pull one out of a simmer site, they normally have the outdated ones
HAHA oops it's not Muscat, it's apparently somewhere else.
Still trying to dig it up
Still trying to dig it up