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For the First Time, the TSA Meets Resistance

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Jeff Goldberg's latest encounter with the TSA proves that pat downs still leave a lot to be improved. (www.theatlantic.com) עוד...

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Fleagle
Fleagle 0
Brilliant.
What next from these, . . . .they 'mean' well. ("yuss'a job,mang.Ju wanna make yo' flite,be nice;...comply" ).
Michael Chertov is laughing from Israel to Jersey City.What genius;who can argue with SUCCESS? Mazel Tov!
frankfurt982
andy streit 0
Once a Senator has problems with the TSA and they find they have no juevos and the word gets out, then this "slide" pat down will be over with.
gcciedmonton
gcciedmonton 0
Basically anything TSA can do to make efforts to stop the pricks that are ruining our safety and freedom I am for it. Its not a fun thing for us or for them....................but our world has changed and best to go with the flow.......................getting blown up in an airplane at 35,000 ft is not my cup of tea. There might be some better ways in the future....but this is now.....swallow it up.
65Aggressor
Roy Brewer 0
When the TSA gets serious about security they will screen all cargo before they concern themselves with inappropriate "pat downs". It is just more "eye wash" to make the public falsely feel safer and humiliate people into using their full body scanners. Last week I had just gone through security screening when I got a secondary screening at the gate. It was useless and when I questioned it the TSA rep said it was another layer of security to ensure my safety. Sure it is.
steve02494
Steven Goldman 0
I personally gave up on commercial flights, just do GA. TSA really doesn't care about people on the flight, and the DOD would shoot you down before you smashed into another city. I don't know of any testing against biological or chemical (nerve) agents. There are enough improvisable weapons on board that any combat trained terrorist can create mayham.

So, other than complaining, what is the answer? Don't under any circumstance let a plane be taken over. Actual combat training and proficiency for the flight crew. Accepting that you can't make eneryone 100% safe and accepting the chance of low level loss. Letting the public pick flights with strict TSA theater security, or flights with lower level of "theater" with fast checks. Flight crews, military, civilian police, or anyone with government security clearance (including the security bage from your local airstrip), get a fast pass.
AviatorLEO
AviatorLEO 0
Well said, Steve. I agree.
flymike12650
Michael Kennedy 0
Until the TSA starts checking mechanics, caterers and fuelers instead of just flight crew and passengers it's all just theater - a show put on to make some morons feel safer. It's worse than pointless, it's insulting.
Hanger72
Russ Spears 0
The answer is simple.
1. Stop worrying about being politically correct. Safety is a behavior NOT a political stance.
2. Admit we are at war, with folks that do not like us, or care how nice we are.
3. Seek, Identify, Target those that have declared war on our population.
Example: Israel seems to be very effective, because they know their enemy, and have no concerns about protecting their citizens.
captoats
captoats 0
Here is a better idea, design a walk in scanner that everyone must pass through that will detonate hidden explosives. That way we accomplish two things at once: the threat is eliminated along with the bad guy/gal, and it frees up a seat! LOL!
captoats
captoats 0
Here is a better idea, design a walk in scanner that everyone must pass through that will detonate hidden explosives. That way we accomplish two things at once: the threat is eliminated along with the bad guy/gal, and it frees up a seat! LOL!
mstar614
mstar614 0
TSA ... Touch Scrotum and Ass
mstar614
mstar614 0
TSA ... Touch Scrotum and Ass
N7172P
N7172P 0
John Oc (captoats).. I like the way you think.. its almost foolproof...and its workable..Congrats..
N7172P
Herbert Yuttal
joncon25
joncon25 0
Michael S. Thank you for letting us know what TSA really means!
Lee1209
JOhn LEe 0
Andy Streit. Since when do senators fly commercial. Safety rules are for masses and theater not the elite.
toolguy105
toolguy105 0
JOhn LEe I know for a fact Senators do fly commercial. I have had the privilege of invoking the rules they themselves wrote on them, very much to their displeasure. When they told me they were Senators my reply was; "then you more than anyone else should know the rules." In this case I made them carry their very heavy and large bags with them as they had more than the allotted time between flights for a bag transfer.
joncon25
joncon25 0
toolguy105 - Good for you with those senators who made these rules. Re-enforce them to the limit. I would have made them go back to the counter to check in "their very heavy and large bags". They are not royalty as some believe.
Peruairport
Peruairport 0
I,ll just jump on my Harley Davidson instead of all the headaches of flying the big jets. I love the freedom of just gettting on my bike and going without the troubles of flying. If we do go somewere long distance we go with general aviation.
MFK6
mary keefer 0
Having just passed through TSA's new procedure......don't wear an underwire bra when traveling. At St. Thomas VI airport they had several woman lined up facing the metal detector doing their sliding hands search. No privacy at all while a strange woman (most assuredly wearing an underwire bra herself)slid her hands over your entire body in front of all the other passengers. Most of the women being invaded were middle-aged women who certainly did not pose a threat of being a terrorist. It held up the lines and caused a general agitation in the crowd. I say if you are going to touch me like that with an audience; at least buy me dinner first!!!
joncon25
joncon25 0
OMG! My wife just bought me a pair of boxer shorts with Metalic threads in the design! And I was planning to wear them to the airport.....where or where will they touch me?
AviatorLEO
AviatorLEO 0
@ Joncon25: Sounds like you're almost fond of the pat down process, and telling the TSA, "Don't threaten me with a good time!"
captoats
captoats 0
Here is a memo the American Airlines Pilot Association (their union) sent to the membership. Lots of good points.

"APA president Captain Bates’ letter in full:

Fellow Pilots,

In response to increased threats to civil aviation around the world, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has implemented the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) body scanners at some airport locations.

While I’m sure that each of us recognizes that the threats to our lives are real, the practice of airport security screening of airline pilots has spun out of control and does nothing to improve national security. It’s long past time that policymakers take the steps necessary to exempt commercial pilots from airport security screening and grant designated pilot access to SIDA utilizing either Crew Pass or biometric identification. As I recently wrote to the TSA Administrator:

“Our pilots are highly motivated partners in the effort to protect our nation’s security, with many of us serving as Federal Flight Deck Officers. We are all keenly aware that we may serve as the last line of defense against another terrorist attack on commercial aviation. Rather than being viewed as potential threats, we should be treated commensurate with the authority and responsibility that we are vested with as professional pilots.”

It is important to note that there are “backscatter” AIT devices now being deployed that produce ionizing radiation, which could be harmful to your health. Airline pilots in the United States already receive higher doses of radiation in their on-the-job environment than nearly every other category of worker in the United States, including nuclear power plant employees. As I also stated in my recent letter to the Administrator of the TSA:

“We are exposed to radiation every day on the job. For example, a typical Atlantic crossing during a solar flare can expose a pilot to radiation equivalent to 100 chest X-rays per hour. Requiring pilots to go through the AIT means additional radiation exposure. I share our pilots’ concerns about this additional radiation exposure and plan to recommend that our pilots refrain from going through the AIT. We already experience significantly higher radiation exposure than most other occupations, and there is mounting evidence of higher-than-average cancer rates as a consequence.”

It’s safe to say that most of the APA leadership shares my view that no pilot at American Airlines should subject themselves to the needless privacy invasion and potential health risks caused by the AIT body scanners. I therefore recommend that the pilots of American Airlines consider the following guidelines:

Use designated crew lines if available.

Politely decline AIT exposure and request alternative screening.

There is absolutely no denying that the enhanced pat-down is a demeaning experience. In my view, it is unacceptable to submit to one in public while wearing the uniform of a professional airline pilot. I recommend that all pilots insist that such screening is performed in an out-of-view area to protect their privacy and dignity.

If screening delays your arrival at the cockpit, do not cut corners that jeopardize the safety of the flight. Consummate professionalism and safety are always paramount.

Maintain composure and professionalism at all times and recognize that you are probably being videotaped.

If you feel that you have been treated with less than courtesy, respect and professionalism, please submit an observer report to APA. Please be sure to include the time, date, security checkpoint and name of the TSA employee who performed the screening. Avoid confrontation.

Your APA Board of Directors and National Officers are holding a conference call this week to discuss these issues and further guidance may be forthcoming.

While I cannot promise results tomorrow, I pledge to dedicate APA resources in the days and weeks to come to achieve direct access to SIDA for the pilots of American Airlines. In the meantime, I am confident that you will continue to exhibit your usual utmost professionalism as you safely operate and protect our nation’s air transport system. "

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