הכול
← Back to Squawk list
American Airlines Flight 331 Crashes after Long Landing at Kingston, Jamaica Airport; Downwind Landing May Have Been a Factor
Looking at a Google Maps satellite photo and comparing it with Jamaica TV’s report that the aircraft overran the runway and “crossed a road,” suggests that the aircraft landed on runway 12 with a tailwind. If so, the accident may turn out to be similar to a December 2005 accident at Chicago’s Midway Airport in which a Southwest Boeing 737-700 landed downwind with a 11 knot tailwind. It encountered poor braking action due to snow and ice on the runway and was still traveling at 53 knots as it… (www.maxtrescott.com) עוד...
Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Kent,
I have great respect to all the ratings that you brilliantly listed in your answer to Max. However, I don't really understand why you attack him on such personal level (previous employer, job, and that CFI of the year thing).
Can't we discuss about facts, and may be hypothesis, instead of taking the discussion in such areas ?
Thank you.
I have great respect to all the ratings that you brilliantly listed in your answer to Max. However, I don't really understand why you attack him on such personal level (previous employer, job, and that CFI of the year thing).
Can't we discuss about facts, and may be hypothesis, instead of taking the discussion in such areas ?
Thank you.
Dear Plasitc Pilot,
Just stating the facts. If Max disputes anything I wrote, please let him respond directly to it. If you care about facts, why don't you respond with a factual name instead of plasticpilot. Do you even have a license?
Just stating the facts. If Max disputes anything I wrote, please let him respond directly to it. If you care about facts, why don't you respond with a factual name instead of plasticpilot. Do you even have a license?
Dear Kent,
I don't want to discuss the fact, because I don't know them well enough for that. I find you tone uselessly agressive, this is why I commented. If you had taken the time to check my website, you would know everything about my details, licence, ratings, and so on.
So please, stop with such agressive comments. Let's talk like pilots, not kids.
Vincent Lambercy,
a.k.a. PlasticPilot
JAA PPL(A) with SEP, MEP and IR(A)
I don't want to discuss the fact, because I don't know them well enough for that. I find you tone uselessly agressive, this is why I commented. If you had taken the time to check my website, you would know everything about my details, licence, ratings, and so on.
So please, stop with such agressive comments. Let's talk like pilots, not kids.
Vincent Lambercy,
a.k.a. PlasticPilot
JAA PPL(A) with SEP, MEP and IR(A)
Kent,
Thanks for your comments. I think your points are:
1) One needs third world jet experience to understand why an aircraft overran a runway.
2) You dont think I should speculate on the cause of accidents because I used to work for HP and write a blog.
3) Contributing factors may been inadequate weather reporting, poor English capabilities of Jamaican controllers, and tired pilots.
I know some people dont think it makes sense to speculate until all facts are known. I disagree. By speculating, pilots learn about the myriad things that Might have occurred, which is more educational than eventually learning about the One reason an accident did occur.
I wouldnt be surprised if fatigue were found to be a contributing factor, and the FAA is working on new rules for that now. I dont know anything about the weather reporting capabilities in Jamaica or the English capabilities of the controllers, but maybe someone else on this web site does.
Thanks for your comments. I think your points are:
1) One needs third world jet experience to understand why an aircraft overran a runway.
2) You dont think I should speculate on the cause of accidents because I used to work for HP and write a blog.
3) Contributing factors may been inadequate weather reporting, poor English capabilities of Jamaican controllers, and tired pilots.
I know some people dont think it makes sense to speculate until all facts are known. I disagree. By speculating, pilots learn about the myriad things that Might have occurred, which is more educational than eventually learning about the One reason an accident did occur.
I wouldnt be surprised if fatigue were found to be a contributing factor, and the FAA is working on new rules for that now. I dont know anything about the weather reporting capabilities in Jamaica or the English capabilities of the controllers, but maybe someone else on this web site does.
I have known you for a few years and even though the FAA in its infinite wisdom crowned you as their CFIoftheyear, I happen to know that you have very little international flight experience as well as no airline operational experience. Max until you have flown extensively into the third world you cannot truly understand the myriad of multiple risks involved in an operation such as this. Weather reporting standards and capabilities, even the language barriers, and don't tell me Jamaica is an English speaking country, differ SIGNIFICANTLY from those in the U.S. It is easy to sit at your computer after having a good nights sleep and cast aspersions like a Monday Morning Quarterback. Max you have never flown a Transport Jet as PIC on the back side of the clock into an island destination with your duty day running out after having been awake for 16 hours (FAA Legal)in heavy weather. If I were a retired Hewlett Packard employee who decided in midlife that I were gods gift to flight instruction and the bloggosphere I'd wisely RESERVE irresponsible comments on things like this until all of the facts come out. - Kent Krizman ATP/ASES/AMES/Gold Seal CFII/Flight Engineer/Helo/A&PMechanic/FAA Dispatcher/7 Jet Type Ratings. 18,000 hrs+, 5000 hours GA instruction given. Proud non-recipient of FAA CFI of the year.