Back to Squawk list
  • 30

Airline operators to push for lone pilot flights despite safety concerns

Submitted
WASHINGTON — Airline operators and civil aviation regulators across the world are pushing to fly airplanes with only one pilot in the cockpit to cut costs. If accepted, the one-pilot setup would in the cockpit lower costs besides helping airlines to cope with the flight crew shortage. However, some find it disconcerting to put such authority in the hands of a single person. (www.airlinerwatch.com) More...

Sort type: [Top] [Newest]


patpylot
patrick baker 63
short sighted siliness maskcarading as fiscal sensibility. It is a dangerous supposition that says one pilot is always going to be a safe operation. The world of aviation does not exist to make accountants happy, and the FAA would be remiss to support this crazy innovation.
nasdisco
Chris B 21
If this ever happens, what are the odds that someone will try and fill that empty seat with a fare paying passenger.
jbsimms
James Simms 18
Ryan Air might
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 6
Firecul
The most expensive seat in the plane, they'd have the best legroom and view.
skylane777
What if P2 is a private pilot...?

Yuk yuk
deingy
A reduced price ticket.
jbermo
jbermo -1
It's the future and you, unfortunately, are along for the ride.
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 46
This is a horrible idea and will come around to bite the tight wadded carriers if allowed to happen. I plan to NEVER take a commercial flight with only one pilot.
nemosteve1080i
nemosteve1080i 19
Ken - I agree with you on not taking flights with only one pilot in the cockpit. Will airlines be forthcoming to say which flights will only have one pilot? Kind of late when one is in the boarding gate and passengers find out the reduced cockpit staffing.
bogwraith
John David 23
THIS is exactly why making a change like this is beyond irresponsible and unacceptable.

This just happened on November 19th. R.I.P. Captain Ford!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-hJtF9qPyY
787jrm
John Roche 21
Precisely! The only single pilot planes that I have ever flown on are 9 passenger Caravans making 10 minute island hops in the Caribbean, and even then I felt a bit uneasy that there was no "backup" pilot. If it ever becomes the industry standard to fly large jets with a single pilot, I will surely become a fan of rail and sea travel.
shawntfs
Shawn Salter -1
Nobody is talking about the elephant in the room, the experimental injections that became mandatory for pilots, causing thrombosis among other horrifying "side-effects". Chances of thrombosis increase at altitude. When are we going to stop this madness?
billkight
Shawn, there is no white elephant in the room. Vaccination has zero safety effects. What I worry about is pilots with tinfoil hats.
N710VE
I’d prefer a tin foil hat to the blinders you wear.
jetjock64
@Shawn - What "experimental" injections? What kinds of thrombosis? Do you have any data on this?
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 19
The safety culture in airlines that support this move is broken. Don't let the bean counters run anything that is safety related.
ghstark
Greg S 18
From reading numerous accident reports over the years I've concluded that even two pilots is not enough during an emergency. There are simply too many critical tasks to quickly handle during an emergency. I don't see technology changing that anytime soon.
cnyflyboy
What are they smoking? If this happens, I will not fly!
jbermo
jbermo 1
Good luck swimming if crossing oceans.
ppyper
I will stop flying. If that curtails my ability to go across the oceans well then so be it.
TiredTom
Tom Bruce 5
just won't go....
steerts
That is a wonderful way to save money-------Until it isn't.
rebomar
rebomar 15
Flew for AAL. We had a captain die on short final. Only one pilot, NO WAY.
rreynard
Randy Reynard 14
Absolute IDIOCY! Single pilot IFR in a complex aircraft is seriously challenging. Can't imagine doing it with 200 people riding in back with you.
linuxranch
linuxranch 1
The number of people sitting behind you has little bearing on the issue. The pilot dies first, even if there are no passengers!
chris13
Chris Bryant 12
I'll take "World's Stupidest Ideas" for $1000, Alex.
jbsimms
James Simms 6
Daily Double
xtoler
Larry Toler 11
After 9/11 it is mandatory to have two people on the flight deck at ALL times. Even in the EMB145's and J41's I was FA on. When one pilot had to "take a break", I would fill in. Of course I can't fly the aircraft, but if something was to happen to the other pilot I would be there as a stopgap by the time the other pilot returns. For my part I would be on the radio and running down the checklists. Luckily, I never had to do that.
jjones8468
JAMES JONES 11
Terrible idea. CRM is important to PAX, crew, carriers and general population as a whole. SMH
PattyVanoy
Patty Vanoy 9
Lunacy!
mutrock
Mark Kortum 15
The AA commuter flight out of ORD this week would have crashed just after takeoff if that one pilot was the one who had the cardiac arrest.
21voyageur
IMHO, this is driven by financial performance. Everything else, including safety, is secondary. Full stop.
jbermo
jbermo 7
The camel's nose is under the tent here with regards to full automation.
ppyper
A sad but very true statement.
anav8r
AF 447 doesn't seem like a good example of how multiple pilots could save the day...although they SHOULD be able to.
whip5209
447 was a perfect example of the plane flying you rather than you flying the plane.
craiglgood
Craig Good 5
This would actually be worse than fully autonomous flights.
flydutch99
Worst. Idea. EVER.
jtilden
jtilden 5
Two people thinking/cross checking each other is clearly a safer environment than one person by themselves. Everyone makes mistakes at some time. The other person is there as an active cross check to prevent mistakes from turning into problems. Ask any Pilot if we have ever made any mistake. Everyone has stories. Many times the mistake was not an issue with controlling the aircraft rather an issue in judgement that could have been mitigated with a conversation, that is the principle of cockpit resource management, a practice which has been proven to enhance overall safety. Automation may help to minimize safety gaps but there is a history of automation inducing safety problems of a different nature. It takes a combination of people and automation to achieve adequate safety to conduct daily scheduled airline operations..
linuxranch
linuxranch 4
Just this week we had an aircraft return to the takeoff location when the Capt became incapacitated, and subsequently died, on arrival at the hospital.

Would "single pilot aided by automation" have, correctly diagnosed the situation and returned to land vs "continued to destination" ensuring the incapacitated pilots death? (In the cited case, he died anyway!)

What if it is an incapacitated passenger instead? Would they just bang on the cockpit door and hope the solo pilot could deal with the issue.

The "consequences of failure" and the "time to first responder arrival" are all much less in situations in transit systems where automation has worked successfully. Examples include BART in SFO.
paulfharris
NO I'LL NEVER FLY IN A COMMERCIAL PLANE WITH ONLY A CAPTAIN
AIRLINES MUST STOP ✋ PUTTING PROFITS 📈 BEFORE SAFETY
SOON AIRLINES WILL WANT TO REMOVE CABIN CREWS FROM PLANES AND REPLACE THEM WITH ROBOTS 🤖
gbotemi08064133886
Adigun Samuel 4
Granular pushing flight ✈️ to cockpit with only one pilot 👩‍✈️ to cut across most especially by a single person
jbbooks1
Lewis Tripp 6
Unless two in the front office, I won't fly.
edallen628
Ed Allen 6
Airlines….it is the CFOs. Cramped seats, crapy service. Now. Single pilots. I guess they don’t care about safety. ONLY GREEN/greed. Who will fly when the pilot becomes sick or worse….dies. Don’t say it wont….IT DOES EVERY YEAR. When they do succeed…. And your family member dies sue the crap out of them.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 3
Some short hops in aircraft that hold less than 15 passengers OK one pilot is enough. But anything longer than an hour or more then 15 passengers is a big NO for me.
Firecul
They should get rid of one of the engines as well, then they can remove 1 electrical system and 1 hydraulic system also. Imagine how much weight and fuel they'd save without them.
thebluesterman
There are all kinds of dumb, but this has got to be near the top of the list of ideas that should never get off the ground.
yarnoca1
John Yarno 3
If I am not mistaken, didn't we just have an incident with a pilot having some serious problem and the copilot taking over and landing? As I recall my reaction was to laugh at the news because they were making a big deal about the copilot making a perfect landing, trying to treat it like the cases where a non-pilot had to take over and land a small plane. What they seem to be trying to do here is eliminate that redundant safety. It seems to me like they are setting up that private aviation situation with an ATC trying to talk someone who is not qualified through the landing of a huge aircraft while sitting 3 stories above the runway, at 180 knots, with around 200 or more passengers. Not someones wife whose husband just died at the controls of a small plane while sitting maybe 4 feet above the runway and with a 50 knot stall speed.
LeanderWilliams
You are absolutely correct. Just 2 days ago at O'Hare in Chicago. The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating after an American Eagle pilot suffered a medical emergency shortly after taking off from O'Hare International Airport this past Saturday night. The pilot of American Eagle (Envoy) Flight 3556 later died at an area hospital. The plane had 57 passengers plus the crew, NONE of which would have survived if the pilot was the only one in the cockpit. This asinine plane should never have even been considered.
molten22
Edward Gold 3
NFW!!!
mike770
are they stupid? where is the commonsense in that, if pilot ill who takes over, stupidity and could not care attitudes, this make excess monies is a killer.
greerbk
Greer Kemp 3
Unbelievable stupid idea. I am no pilot but even I know that the critical issue is safety and that during an emergency the pilots workload increases tremendously. One pilot simply could not cope... and when you are in the air, you don't get a second chance... you have to fly the aircraft and get it safely on the ground... it is pure accountant-speak to think this is a safe or intelligent idea.
SHUSSBAR
less staff to pay, are price tickets going to go down?
paulfharris
No of course not high ticket prices mean bigger profits
bentwing60
bentwing60 3
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/just-pilot-dies-suddenly-collapsing-shortly-takeoff-chicago-airport-audio/

nuff said
jbsimms
James Simms 3
Otto The Auto Pilot not going to be on any flight
dawsontx
Jim Dawson 7
The article quotes a Chinese source as stating in favor of single pilot operations and ground controlled takeoff & landings. The Chinese are a trusted source???.
kentsteerwell
Mark Cuming 5
Bad idea. Look what happened on that Envoy flight a few days ago. Didn’t hear? Captain incapacitated and later died. FO handled things, not an FA and not a passenger.
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 4
Two is one and one is none.
williamableman
Obviously, everyone who is for this, including the ones who came up with this idea -- ARE NOT PILOTS !!!!! The pilot, even on a normal flight, would be overworked and stressed beyond belief -- NOT TO MENTION IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY !!!!! How would the pilot troubleshoot, fly the plane, and correct the problem, along with navigating ALL at the same time. There are circuit breakers out of his reach, so if the pilot needed to troubleshoot, that ONE person would have to get up out of their seat -- WHO IS GOING TO FLY THE PLANE ?! In many Emergencies, the pilot is ALL hands on just trying to keep the plane flying straight and level.
jetjock64
@ Shawn - What "experimental" injections? What kinds of thrombosis? Do you have any data on this?
DocJohninDC
The workload on a single airline pilot during the approach and short final during a significant crosswind (one that’s still within OPL), would be an invitation to disaster. The single pilot would have to be both the PF and the PM. In a true emergency situation the inevitability of a crash would likely approach 100%. The FAA/NTSB have too many investigations in their files that invalidate the idiocy of such a proposal. We haven’t had a major airline crash in the US since Colgan Air in 2009 that killed 49 souls on the plane and 1 on the ground. I’d bet the FAA/NTSB would like to keep that streak going. A single pilot in an airline cockpit is not a way for that to happen.
pki57146
Also, get rid of all those automated safety features cluttering up the cockpit.
russellarthurjohns
It is an absolute lie when airlines say safety is their top priority. They'd gladly crash more planes if it saved a few bucks.
danhill767
Dan Hill 2
I am a retired Airline Pilot of more than 30 years flying for a major airline. Again I see MONEY being considered over the safety of the passengers. If the airlines could, they would be flying everything with out any pilots!! Of course there way of thinking is computers can take care of everything so know need for a human at the controls. Wrong!! Computers fail!! Nothing has replaced the human brain! Lot of passengers aboard our planes these days! Hugh loss of life when one goes down for computer failure! Once this happens, the carrier with the human pilots will get the majority of the business.
JaneW
No. Bad idea. Safety loses.
redcordes
paul cordes 2
Guess what, I'll pay the extra what $7 or $8 dollars per passenger to keep the second pilot up there. Ridiculous to have sole pilot operation, due to temporary illnesses or ongoing medical issues. Bean counters are way out of line here!
RWSlater
Ron Slater 2
The Pilots and their unions will never let this happen.
1skate1
David Purtz 2
Or the passengers. It doesn't take a genius to understand this is a terrible idea (April fools joke for Thanksgiving from the government).
nsw72
This is when penny pushers should be lined up and shot.
Mariner777
Mariner777 3
Idiocracy the general public won’t understand some might still fly , but it is crazy. They would be cutting off they’re own noses to spite they’re face. They will loose businesses and possibly lives!!
VJL
Starman535
This evil and stupid idea gains traction because the twits in the Front office decided to fire all the crew who refused the clot shots. It'd pure evil.
jnlketcham
Jesse Ketcham 1
I thought the FAA mandated redundancy for all critical aircraft systems. The single pitot source for the original MCAS software is a good study in the consequences of a single point failure, and the proposal to reduce the crew to one while piloting a high-speed vehicle with hundreds of lives at stake is beyond irresponsible. This is a case where the cost of safety (redundant pilots) is fully justifiable, as is the extra cost of redundant systems.
sweeper239
sweeper239 1
I had a back seater when I flew F-4 Phantoms. When the shit hit the fan, as it often did, I could focus on flying the plane and leave the rest to him. Could never have done both. I owe my life to him.
Optimist134
This dumb idea is just "not ready for prime time"
Optimist134
This dumb idea is just "not ready for prime time"
CAH747
Why must a corporation cut out a crew member to increase profits/stock price and put all passengers at life risk? The law suits would be overwhelming in any crash..? I flew long haul & the other qualified pilot did sleep in the left/right seat, but WAS THERE.
rwoollams
I wonder how much the airlines' insurers will raise their premiums if this happens. I assume that the sharp-pencil guys are taking that into account.
cneill1
Cole Neill 1
Just pick a random passenger to fly the plane. Who needs a pilot anymore?
n555cf
Comforting.. when the lone pilot walks back to the bathroom
n555cf
TESLA autopilots... What could go wrong?
kelliott3ster
I suppose robots/AI will do both jobs in 20 years time
307CAB
It’s too dangerous. Look at the last 3 years. How many pilots have died or become incompasitated at the controls. The copilot had to land the plane. Safety first. There are refunded systems on the aircraft. Why not have a backup copilot I at the controls too. If this would ever happen. I won’t fly commercial.
helensreekumar
Hay, get rid of both pilots and let the robot fly the aircraft, airline profit margin will soar .
topgunnh
The airlines want to "cut costs"! How much of this cost cutting will be returned to the passengers who are assuming all the risk and potentially none of the reward? I will never fly on a solo pilot jumbo jet!
peteborozan
It will be interesting to see how task saturation is measured against a single pilot. There are a number of "routine" emergencies - like an engine out - that you could program for. It's the one that can't be simulated will be a big problem. Also - verifying that the AI is working correctly / hasn't been compromised in some way.

Foreign Carriers in some instances have much lower experience requirements for PIC. I don't fly on any of them and going to a single pilot on one of those airlines - yow !
Ginny92
Pilot died on flight leaving Chicago last Saturday and the copilot brought the plane and passengers back to the airport. This could never be done with one pilot
jamesehugh
James Hugh 1
Hopefully with a traveling pilot as usual most of the time.
Warzochafrank67
There will be a total walkout and the flying public will support the unions and pilots.
mmilberg
mel milberg 1
take some grammar lessons. there? you mean their.
wypaladin
Bill Casey 1
Stupid is as Stupid does!!!
echap9952
Ed Chapman 1
Attention passengers, does anyone know how to fly a plane?
SteveCutchen
Not a problem! During an emergency, the one pilot will just have to fly the plane while simultaneously managing the written checklists and procedures!

No biggie! Just start recruiting for flight school automobile drivers that can simultaneously read Facebook on their phones!
petesjet1
ABSOLUTELY NOT! That's removing the most vital safety need on any plane!
dbruggeman2014
I already don't trust airlines and now they are trying to make sure I never fly again.
shawntfs
So what happens when the solo pilot has a SADS incident from the you know what, while flying?
thomafrancl
That would be a big NEGATIVE. I'll drive myself & take my chances avoiding a drunk driver.
jdanielparodi
Juan Parodi 1
So dumb idea
ssobol
If they can remotely pilot a vehicle into lunar orbit and then back to earth, remotely flying a plane from Chicago to Atlanta should be a piece of cake.
mikeosmers
I don’t think so.
n555cf
There won't be anyone to see the pilot SLEEPING
flybd5juan
Not no, not hell no, f**k no. This is a truly stupid idea.
ewrcap
People gladly get into unmanned Taxis now. And the pilots ride the driverless trains out to the concourses. There will continue to be two pilots monitoring flights but the other guy will be on the ground. This will begin with the cargo airlines. Already, FEDEX is testing a UAV Caravan for feeder service. Get ready, it’s coming.
ByronHuf
Byron Huff 1
Rail has only one engineer. They used to have a crew of five!
StanUno
Stan Schmoe 1
Bad idea and the outcome even worse!
dawnbrady1
Dawn Brady 1
No way if that happens I will never fly again,
DonaldSchoengold
On domestic flights I suspect that the people who are pushing this are either Greyhound Bus companies or maybe the people who are trying to expand the American railroad network. But wait - don't trains have to have 2 people in the locomotive in addition to a dead man's switch.
ByronHuf
Byron Huff 1
No, only one!
DougHaviland
Try watching Airline Disasters on the history channel. It almost makes me not want to fly now. One pilot? I think not.
skylane777
If there are five pilots, and none have extensive manual reversion training there are zero pilots on the flight deck...
leaf4evr
Airlinr operators- Please make sure the "Lone" pilot can actually flay a plane in case his/her computer blows a fuse mid-flight. And please know that I and any of my loved ones will ever board a plane with a lone pilot. As stated in other posts- NFW!!!
leaf4evr
"Fly" "Flaying" a plane would be frowned on.
steerts
Even a "one pilot" cargo aircraft would be a threat to those on the ground if the pilot became incapcitatated.
lexusbob
No Thank You. I will take the bus if I want a single driver.
Gouldgh
So Air Force One captain will not have a co-pilot to save money when FAA approves this?
ppyper
This is the worst idea ever. But watch it will happen with Cargo Carriers first. I will simply stop flying as a passenger if this happens. Yes it will curtail my lifestyle but I will not fly with one if the legacy or regionals if it is a 1 pilot operation.
jmacd258
But even cargo carriers with an incapacitated pilot can kill 100’s of people on the ground.
When will Management learn that the best way to safe money is to get rid of top management?
steerts
A "one pilot" cargo aircraft would still be a threat to those on the ground If pilot became incapacitated.
timothyannis
The aircraft manufacturer creates a document called a Type Certificate Data Sheet. This document is required by the FAA and states all the requirements for certification. In this document it lists the required number of crew (pilots). This determination is made taking into account the complexity of the aircraft and pilot workload. Granted, some long international flights where a lot of the time the flight is in Remote Oceanic airspace there may only be one pilot in the cockpit. They carry "Cruise Pilots" that can only be in command during cruise. This is done so the crew that will be performing the approach and landing will be rested and fresh.
TiredTom
Tom Bruce 1
Hell no.. I won't go... but I'm old and retired so I don't have to do anything I don't want to do...
lecompte2
lecompte2 1
So much for CRA and it's benefits proven daily in the real world of flying. Time to get bean counters out of management of airlines.
PeterThePilot
I'll just leave this here:
https://www.flyingmag.com/pilot-who-became-incapacitated-during-flight-dies/
duane270
Duane Osman 1
Maybe there should be a back-up alarm clock in the cockpit.
mikeenderle
mikeenderle 1
Germanwings 9525.

I rest my case.
rlamond
Bob Lamond 1
Anyone interested in going beyond the headline should read the ICAO paper at https://www.icao.int/Meetings/a41/Documents/WP/wp_101_en.pdf
gbotemi08064133886
If accepted, the one-pilot setup would in the cockpit lower costs besides helping airlines to cope with the flight crew 📞
gbotemi08064133886
It would lower costs and ease pressure from crew shortages, but placing such responsibility on a single person at the controls is unsettling ...
Speichinger
Absolutely the worst idea I have ever heard. Something happens to the pilot and 500 people instantly dead. There wouldn’t be a shortage of pilots if they hadn’t fired those who refused the jab.
ppyper
This is not the place for you conspiracies.
steerts
it's actually a good place to discuss conspiracies if they have a negative effect on aviation. Woke ideas don't belong here Mr. Pyper.
heysoundude
Greg Kusiak 1
I’ve seen more comments here about cost cutting than pilot shortage. I would like to think the latter opens an opportunity for the airlines to turn every flight into a training flight with an FO who is a freshly minted Commercial pilot with instrument rating looking to get a type rating under/with an experienced ATP - on the job training, rather in SIMs. Half a decade of that and the shortage will disappear. 2 stripes to start, 3 when they’re on their way and graduate to 4. Downvote me if you want, but see opportunity rather than danger and encourage the consideration of the idea and it’s potential.
heysoundude
Greg Kusiak 0
And here’s another story hinting at my idea above.
DRotten
D Rotten 1
To 'cut costs'?? Well, that's the cover story.....when the industry has a pilot SHORTAGE, due to having been forced to get 'lethal injections'. Those that haven't, yet, dropped dead, are severely injured.
ewrcap
I hope you have your tin foil hat on!
ajones1961
Allen Jones 1
Do you even have a brain
feknight
feknight 1
FWIW - they already have flights with 1 pilot. I've flown several commercial airline flights with only 1 pilot. I guess someone did a cost/risk analysis and decided where the line was to require 2 pilots. Those flights had only 8-9 passengers. But I will say, as someone who sets in the back, I do prefer knowing (on the larger aircraft) there are 2 pilots up front (who each could fly the plane manually if required).
artpauly
Art Pauly 0
In the last two and a half years, many Pilots were forced to take the EXPERIMENTAL COVID Jab. We are now seeing pilots passing out, having heart problems and other incapaciating illness while flying because of the Jab.
dwelshans0527
Any proof?
kevinkeswick
Kevin Keswick -3
This is INSANITY!

In December 2021 WestJet experienced two inflight pilot incapacitations on two separate flights (within a few weeks of it becoming MANDATORY for Canadian pilots to have two injections of the experimental covid "vaccines").

Had there been just one pilot in the cockpit and he/she became incapacitated the aircraft would have crashed eventually killing hundreds of passengers.

How can such an INSANE proposal be justified? Who would be stupid enough to fly on a commercial airliner with just one pilot flying behind an impenetrable cockpit door if something goes wrong?
antarius
Causation and correlation aren't the same thing. Then again, given your misuse of quotes, I'm not sure that the data actually matters to push whatever agenda you have.
bentwing60
bentwing60 2
Not to worry as PPPfizer has probably already, or soon will patent and selll their New Single pilot sudden medical emergency in flight kit, (injection), to be hung by the crash axe! But not in any of their GWhizzes with two or three Captains on board for long flights.

Meanwhile, "Otto Pilot, Jim Stryker, Elaine from the movie "Airplane" and AB automation will take care of the flyin' chores for the masses and freight. Who knows, next may come Garmin Autoland or The really big parachute" with ETOPS in mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMhYl74vw2c

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=jim+stryker+and+airplane&atb=v205-1&iax=images&ia=images

Sarc, sarc, sarc Cmon' man, what are you gonna believe, what they say or your lyin' eyes. It'll never happen!

Cheers and a pleasant Turkey Day.
bbabis
bbabis -3
As we move toward aerial operations with no pilots, single pilot operations are inevitable.
strickerje
strickerje 2
Aerospace engineering has always emphasized redundancy in order to prevent single points of failure. Going from 2 backups to 1 isn't nearly as big a step as 1 to zero. Even with 2 pilots, we've seen plenty of incidents resulting from the crew becoming dependent on automation and not knowing how to handle system failures.
antarius
Exactly. The same panic was happening when airlines went from 3 to 2. You also had the teeth gnashing about ETOPS and how 2 engines are unsafe.

Change is scary to some.
paultrubits
paul trubits -2
Voting this post down is not going to change the future
jbermo
jbermo -2
With cockpits going in the direction of more and more and more automation, there is no doubt the future will come to this - and beyond.
ImperialEagle
ImperialEagle -1
Yet another very bad idea by the Globalists/WEF as they advance their Great Re-Set. The woke corporations have an easy connection to get their ideas pushed through, in the interest of efficiency, of course. But my first argument would be the high risk. The FAA has been aware for a few years of the numbers of myocardial infarctions that are now up about 700% in ALL age groups since we the sheeple received those COVID vaccines, as well as a sharp rise in people just suddenly dropping-dead for no apparent reason. Part of the reason the FAA very gingerly handled the whole vaccine issue when it comes to airline pilots. It's all documented. Everybody knows it's going on. Nobody wants to face the reality that none of us really know what we have been injected with, and, what it's long term effects may be. The mainstream media, however, does not report on any of it.

Even so, the prospect of a medical emergency ,notwithstanding, there is no substitute for another pilot. I do not doubt that the day will come when pilotless aviation is going to be normal ops, but, I don't think we are ready to go there yet.
At least not mentally.
lynnpype
lynnpype 0
What safety concerns? The vast majority of safety incidents are caused by pilot error. Reducing the role of the pilot and increasing the role of automation, with the ability to intervene from the ground where decisions can be taken without the stress and emotional impact of being in the air, will only further increase safety.

I agree this is the only answer for the pilot shortage problem, which will only get worse as aviation is losing ground with young people as a career option (becoming an influencer, Youtuber or gamer was indicated as much more desirable in a recent poll).

Airlines are right to not worry about the impact on ticket sales. Such impact would only be temporary, and passengers will come back when the ticket price is $5 lower than the competitor.
johntaylor571
John Taylor 0
I wonder if they'll still think it's an effective cost savings after they have to pay out a several hundred lawsuits from fatal crashes that would likely have been avoided had two pilots been up front.
rcarlass
Unfettered late-stage capitalism.

Plain ... and.... Simple
tradervic
In the future there will be one pilot but in some office building somewhere will be another pilot that has the ability to take over and fly the aircraft should something happen with the aircraft pilot. Just as they now fly drones this pilot in the office building will be monitoring 6-8 aircrafts in flight. Should he be needed all his attention will go to that aircraft and the rest of his aircrafts will be picked up by another just like ATC does in an emergency. Like it of not, it is the future.
Rosomak
Rosomak 4
Airlines would still need a pilot for the office job, they would need to be trained and attend recurrent like any other pilot, plus additional training to monitor several planes at once. Then there’s the tech and infrastructure to make it all work and keep it maintained (requiring skilled workers)…

something tells me the cost-savings argument falls apart pretty quick
ppyper
The remote pilot’s life is not on the line; if you are in the cockpit you either fly or die. I would rather have the pilot in the cockpit if I am a PAX. Thank you very much.
ewrcap
Actually, being away from the cockpit could decrease the panic and allow the ground pilot to think more effectively. The less involved with the handling of the aircraft a pilot is, the better he is at reasoning. This is why standard airline practice is to have the first officer fly and the Captain manage the emergency. In the old days, Captain did both. The night before the LionAir crash and in the same aircraft, a knowledgeable jump seat rider saved the day. The same could have been done by a ground based pilot. There are airplanes that crash with three four pilots on the flight deck. Asiana at SFO, Pan Am/KLM at Tenerife, EAL in the Everglades, UA at Portland.
1skate1
David Purtz -8
Let us pray. This is more nonsense from the incompetent corrupt biden administration. Notice the Transportation secretary has no experience running or being involved in transportation, however he checks the box of being gay and believing that men can birth babies. Apparently we just have to wait for a crash or disaster killing a lot of people before they care.
ppyper
Huh? Your aluminum hat not working? What has the Biden administration got to do with this? This insane idea has been floated for years by airlines to cut costs!
rlamond
Bob Lamond 4
I’ll guess you didn’t read the article and do some basic follow up research before posting your opinion and homophobic comment. I’ve no disagreement with your statement that SECDOT is one of the least qualified qualified individuals to fill that post. However, your need to bash gay men and make political statements is unworthy of this website. Further, if you did the aforementioned research you could have found the ICAO paper that was the source of the story. Here is the link:
https://www.icao.int/Meetings/a41/Documents/WP/wp_101_en.pdf
Please read it and tell us where you see the United States as being a sponsor state.
For the record, I, too, am very reluctant to go down the single pilot (airline world) route. But this particular effort has nothing to do with the US SECDOT.
rwoollams
Have any of you looked at a list of past DOT Secretaries? They're all politicians of one flavor or another. Elaine Chou, Elizabeth Dole, Norm Mineta, Ray LaHood, Andrew Card, and on and on. Not a pilot in the bunch. So whatever beef you might have about Pete, it isn't that he's under-qualified compared to others who've held the post.

So what else about him might bother you all? Boy, that's a tough one to figure out, isn't it?
rwoollams
The article (you read it, right?) has this initiative coming out of Europe, not the US.
craiglgood
Craig Good 1
Well, you may be a bigot but at least you're a science denier.
Mmeyers7167
Don’t be a Luddite! Years ago the typical airline crew was comprised of a Pilot, copilot, navigator, flight engineer, and radio operator. The prevailing thought at the time was operating a flight with fewer than a five man flight crew was suicide. Well we now know that presumption was erroneous. You can’t stop the March of technology. Single person flight operation will occur, at some point in our future. My recommendation is that they start with cargo operations and as the technology is refined integrate it into passenger operations.

Login

Don't have an account? Register now (free) for customized features, flight alerts, and more!
This website uses cookies. By using and further navigating this website, you accept this.
Dismiss
Did you know that FlightAware flight tracking is supported by advertising?
You can help us keep FlightAware free by allowing ads from FlightAware.com. We work hard to keep our advertising relevant and unobtrusive to create a great experience. It's quick and easy to whitelist ads on FlightAware or please consider our premium accounts.
Dismiss