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Boeing 737 Max: 'I lost my family in the Ethiopian plane crash'
Paul Njorogre says his family died because of Boeing's "negligence" (www.bbc.com) עוד...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Even with erroneous MCAS activation, good pilot technique could have saved the day. The Lion crew did not even know that MCAS existed. Supposedly, the ET302 crew did know but botched it up completely. They NEVER throttled the takeoff power back and easily exceeded the never exceed speed. The excessive speed made manual trim efforts futile.
in fact, boeing is liable for criminal negligence, and will be so found as soon as a case makes it to court. The moron below who insinuated poorly trained pilots were the cause of each Max crash may be only partly and slightly accurate, for Lion Air is no where as competent as Ethiopian Airlines, Still, a faulty aircraft is the cause and Boeing is written somewhere on each of their sold aircraft.
Dispatchers have no idea of any planes true condition, and even less about a new type, as the Max was.
Dispatchers have no idea of any planes true condition, and even less about a new type, as the Max was.
So who goes to jail?
Boeing is solely responsible for the 737 MAX aircraft and and all components used to manufacture the aircraft, the loss of lives make them pay there is no excuse for Boeing
The fact remains that accidents are typically the result of a series of circumstances and events that align in a way that the accident occurs.
Without the final report, it seems reasonable to think that Lion Air should NOT have had that aircraft in the air when the accident occurred. This is one of the pieces that were aligned for that accident.
The training of the pilots of the Ethiopian aircraft has been called into question, but at least some of this seems to be based off of incorrect early reports. There is no reason that I know of to think that the pilots of any other airline were better trained to handle this situation.
Boeing has responsibility, in my opinion, for at least three of the elements that aligned to allow these accidents:
1. They sold a faulty aircraft, in which last-minute changes to the MCAS system had not adequately been tested and reviewed. Compounding this is a fundamental aircraft design that rendered the MCAS system necessary (in my opinion, this fundamental design strategy is not appropriate, but that is only my opinion).
2. Boeing implemented a training system that was inadequate regarding the MCAS system. Compounding this issue is the apparent revelation that the simulator itself did not handle the situation realistically, so even if pilots optionally trained on the simulator, the training would not have been appropriate.
3. They designed the aircraft to incorporate major control decisions based off of a single sensor (lack of redundancy) when it would have been trivial to design it to use multiple sensors.
Boeing is not entirely responsible (particularly for the Lion Air accident), but they certainly are responsible for two of the elements that aligned to cause the accident. The FAA is supposed to make sure that Boeing is doing what they are supposed to, and failed utterly, but the fact is that Boeing had an inherent responsibility to do things right even without the regulator checking up on them.
Without the final report, it seems reasonable to think that Lion Air should NOT have had that aircraft in the air when the accident occurred. This is one of the pieces that were aligned for that accident.
The training of the pilots of the Ethiopian aircraft has been called into question, but at least some of this seems to be based off of incorrect early reports. There is no reason that I know of to think that the pilots of any other airline were better trained to handle this situation.
Boeing has responsibility, in my opinion, for at least three of the elements that aligned to allow these accidents:
1. They sold a faulty aircraft, in which last-minute changes to the MCAS system had not adequately been tested and reviewed. Compounding this is a fundamental aircraft design that rendered the MCAS system necessary (in my opinion, this fundamental design strategy is not appropriate, but that is only my opinion).
2. Boeing implemented a training system that was inadequate regarding the MCAS system. Compounding this issue is the apparent revelation that the simulator itself did not handle the situation realistically, so even if pilots optionally trained on the simulator, the training would not have been appropriate.
3. They designed the aircraft to incorporate major control decisions based off of a single sensor (lack of redundancy) when it would have been trivial to design it to use multiple sensors.
Boeing is not entirely responsible (particularly for the Lion Air accident), but they certainly are responsible for two of the elements that aligned to cause the accident. The FAA is supposed to make sure that Boeing is doing what they are supposed to, and failed utterly, but the fact is that Boeing had an inherent responsibility to do things right even without the regulator checking up on them.
Aren't #1 and #3 the same thing?
What was incorrect about the second crash in early reports?
What was incorrect about the second crash in early reports?
This sounds like a balanced and fair conclusion.