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Frustrated with Inaccurate Estimated Taxi Times?

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FlightAware launches new predictive technology to take the guesstimate out of taxi times. (flightaware.com) עוד...

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jwerner761
James Werner 7
None of that matters. Airlines use various data to tout their on-time performance: wheels-up, flying time, landing, and so on. The only useful metric answers the simple question, "Did I arrive on time?" which is when the aircraft door opens at the arrival gate. Everything else in between is pointless.
benoitjh
Benoit Hilty 1
The 'out' time and 'in' time are usually linked to the aircraft's brakes, so that's the time the airline I worked for used for the block time.

SeanAwning
Sean Awning 8
Frustrated with the definition of taxi time, certainly, since the estimates will be skewed depending which data one collects or ignores. Do you track taxiing aircraft or just take the OOOI from the carriers? Do you have a way to distinguish between a plane that's actually taxiing and one that pushed back only to be towed back to the stand for *cough* a minor issue? Will you include data from aircraft that lose their squawk or ADS-B fix between runway and stand, or set the parking brake while waiting for their designated stand to be ready for them? Will your taxi times include the prolonged waits in the penalty box or while on queue for de-icing? And will you finally start reporting the "gate arrival" for freighters and other aircraft that don't pull up to a jetbridge?
mbrews
mbrews 5
The service you describe may be useful to some operators. In particular, it may be useful to operators at heavily congested (overbooked slots) airports. Newark EWR comes to mind. At peak times, ALL taxiways resemble a parking lot. Ground desk has the thankless job to keep aircraft flowing without full gridlock.

Last week, I arrived as EWR from SFO at 7 PM local, when the weather had been low clouds the entire day. After landing, it took a full 50 minutes of taxi time until we reached the UNOCCUPIED gate.

Many of the a/c awaiting takeoff had 2 to 3 hour waits in the queue that day.
keithcaley
Keith Caley 2
Speaking purely from personal experience as a passenger -

Taxiing at the new IST seems to take longer than the flight from ECN 🙄
patpylot
patrick baker 2
one probloem with taxi times being erratic, unpredictable , is the fuel used to taxi, sit, taxi , sit. THe air gets a bit foul to breath in such cases. A fleet of tow vehicles used to move airliners from gate to near the runway, ready to position and hold, remains a good thought . Start up engines closer to the end of the runway has few bad side effects.
keithcaley
Keith Caley 2
...and there's the possibility of using electric vehicles for towing - plenty of space on airport buildings for solar panels...
ExCalbr
Victor Engel 1
Or they could use conveyor belts like they use for the luggage. :-)
keithcaley
Keith Caley 1
You forgot the /S at the end of your comment ;)
I did say that I'm only an uninformed {although interested) passenger!
DaveRK
DaveRK 1
Like it or not, the airlines will find a way.
I do not blame the folks in the first 2 seat way upfront, they're stuck playing the game.
I get a smile out of the pilot coming on "Ladies and gentlemen from the cockpit, we'll be getting you into Orlando 20 minutes ahead of schedule."
Gee... good tail wind, flying just below Mach I or an inaccurate time so the flight can claim ontime performance to satisfy the suits and unaware flying public?

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