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Canada to not follow FAA in un-grounding the 737 MAX

Submitted 4 years ago

Transport Canada (TC), the Canadian authority responsible for civil aviation, released a statement that there would be differences between it and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regarding the Boeing 737 MAX un-grounding. (www.aerotime.aero) More...

Nick Blazanovic

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 7

My take away on the TC decission are 2 specific items . 1st , TC is with holding permission until operational matter's are dealt with for Air Canada , Sun Wing and West Jet before they can get their aircraft up . But the 2nd point is more a thorn in the side of US Carriers . NO 737-Max will be allowed in Canadian Airspace until we say so ! It appears that TC at this point is in no rush to let any Max fly in Canada . I'll have to see how this shakes out .

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Sue Lockwood 4 years ago 11

After “following “ for years I’m relieved that TC is finally standing up for itself and the citizens it represents.

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Sue Lockwood 4 years ago 3

Are we still talking about the MAX 737? Two crashes with all human lives taken? The FAA initially relinquished approvals on this aircraft to Boeing. We are an independent country with Transport Canada ultimately responsible for our air safety. Take as long as you need. TC.

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Michael Vowles 4 years ago 5

I beg to differ - they are not communist. I do not know how you can make that statement. I will say however that you are ignorant and should perhaps go and live in another country. This is not anti-US ideology - how stupid to say something like this. Transport is just making sure that they do not get screwed again by an agency that got into bed with the manufacturer. Sorry, the FAA has a black eye on this one.

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Iain Robertson 4 years ago 0

Gentlemen please! Gentle..men!.. Please! Pah..lease!... Okay... Now that I have your attention, Have another Brandy and light up a Cuban cigar.. As Canadians we are privileged to smoke Cuban cigars and rub the ashes in our hated, vile, yet protective neighbours to our south. Nonetheless, the real reason for Canada's sober second thought is to give time for the U.S. document to be translated in to Quebecois Francois. Non ?

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 2

Oh Iain , Don't get me started .I really don't know if there is any truth to this , but it's possible .

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JASON AWID 4 years ago 5

Your an idiot ..

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Brian Rushfeldt 4 years ago -1

and you are ??? do you know anything about the policies which Liberals have foisted on Canadians that have put us into a massive debt and restricted many businesses? are you a Canadian?

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Brian Rushfeldt 4 years ago -8

and you are ??? do you know anything about the policies which Liberals have foisted on Canadians that have put us into a massive debt and restricted many businesses? are you a Canadian?

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 5

actually i am Canadian . And i suspect that you are too . I figure you fall within the ranks as a Conservative backer . And as you suspect , i am a Liberal backer . But before you blow a fuse , i still think for myself . I don't want you to instantly view me as an enemy .

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Brian Rushfeldt 4 years ago 0

i am involved in govt. issues so I see clearly the policies that can hinder or harm our Canadian economy and culture. the Canadian question was meant for Jason Awid above... as you see our debt ratio and why we have it and the many ethics issues of the Liberal govt. does that not make you questiuon what is really behind it all?

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 2

Brian , the ethics issues Do Really bother me . He has made some fine Blunders ,that another man may not make . But another Gov't will . I also know about GDP to Debt ratio's and both the fiscal year deficit ,and the even scarier in Total National debt . There is going to be a day of wreckoning when attempts to cut the deficits is coming . But in the midst of a Pandemic , the rule book has been tossed out , and there is no other way to help the people and Country , but to spend . I am interested in your views however . DGR

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Brian Rushfeldt 4 years ago 0

I do wonder if all the spending has really done much - we have record number of foreclosures in some parts of Canada.... and the lockdown of small businesses yet leaving open the big Costcos and Wal Marts has solved little for the virus issue but bankrupted many small owners. I do not think money can solve the virus matter... I am not convinced that lock down prevents the spread. I do think being smart and not gathering in groups you don't know and failure of personal cleanliness are 2 major factors. i also wonder if we really have a pandemic - numbers are high but when looked at in comparison to previous years with flu stats ... not that significantly different.

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 2

Money in and of itself , is not going to solve the Virus . But the people that have lost their jobs at least have some sort of income . The business may be lost . But maybe the money can help keep these people housed , and feed . I know people are really hurting , but if our 3 levels of Gov't did nothing , there'd be rioting in the streets . So , Between a Rock and a Hard Place ? Now as for the term Pandemic . That term is more to indicate that the entire world is being effected . But Canada , is being effected . Right now , i am awaiting Premier Doug Ford to announce a shut down of the GTA and Peel Region . Mayor John Tory may go further . So for me,in my part of Canada does have a problem .

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 4

in your world ,if they don't share your view , they must be commies .

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Brian Rushfeldt 4 years ago -5

not about my view sir - it is about the absurd and harmful policies that have been foisted on Canadians for 5 years. You cannot deny that if you are honest.

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ROLAND BALCH 4 years ago 2

What the hell does this have to do with aviation

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 2

Hi Roland . What i wrote , was in reply to a comment that i could not let go . It was important not to let that comment go unchallenged . But you are right . It has absolutely nothing to do with Aviation . I have always liked this site because i am an aviation buff . But politics and slander always end up being the topic . If you want to talk about TC's decision to with hold certification , i'm all for that . Lets get back to basics .....DGR

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ROLAND BALCH 4 years ago 2

I wasn't directing at you in particular, but the general line of comments . Thank you and be safe .

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 4

hi Brian . You may distrust and disagree with the Liberals and Trudeau , but they're not commies . If we had Commies , we wouldn't be able to share our views like we are doing now .

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Brian Rushfeldt 4 years ago -1

the Liberals just have not moved this far yet.... but their policies proposed are to restrict a lot of what we think of as free speech. They have bought off most of the media with 600 million $$$ as you are likely aware.

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 5

your sounding like a conspiracy believer who leans towards what you can find on the net . Every one is out to get you . Any comment ?

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Michael Vowles 4 years ago 5

Wow, this is a Trumpian discussion and sorry to say that we have these conspiracy believers in Canada. It is what happens when the right wing slowly dumbs down the population through incremental cuts to education.

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cyberjet 4 years ago 1

Your views are not shared by the majority of Canadians, who voted for progressive candidates. You cannot deny that - if you are honest.

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SkipGM 4 years ago -1

My guess is that there could be several reasons why TC is not automatically blessing the FAA's decision. The FAA appears to have become quite politicised and therefore their decisions could be thought to be based on more than just software and engineering solutions. (This may also explain why some other countries' aviation regulators are not holding the FAA in the same esteem as before.)
Another possibility is that the Cdn government is looking for a cause that will show that the PM is capable of decisive action. The government needs to be seen doing something, and recertifying 737 Max is far less contentious than, say, dealing with Canada/China relations.

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 3

OH Boy Skip , is that a Loaded answer . Should i elaborate , or just let it ride ?

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gordon Walker 4 years ago -3

Canada won't allow the Max to fly because they don't understand that the 2 crashes were piloted by barely competent crews and maintained by barely competent maintenance people if not incompetent

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cyberjet 4 years ago 4

The professional investigators - you know, those pesky experts who are charged with determining the actual real causes of accidents - disagree with you strongly. The very notion that a flight control system could suffer such a catastrophic misbehaviour after a single point of failure is honestly laughable in its incompetence. Those pilots and mechanics didn't certify the airplane. Boeing and the FAA did. They're carrying the can for this debacle - as it should be.

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DGR Rathborne 4 years ago 2

i agree cyberjet . Gordon is just doing the conspiracy stuff . I've come to respect Accident Investigators , from any country , for their diligence and drive to find the Truth !! If in fact the Crews where incompetent that would have been pointed out . Investigators hold no favouritism ,or loyalties . The men and women of the NTSB , AAIB
and TSBC to name a few , will let nothing stand in the way of the Cause and Truth ,of an Accident . This you can beat on .........DGR

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