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JAL plane aborts landing after car spotted on runway at Tokushima airport

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Article includes video from airport camera which shows the car on the runway. (www.japantoday.com) עוד...

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bishops90
Brian Bishop 5
Better video here:
http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-news-channel/watch-plane-land-then-nearly-hit-truck-on-tarmac-423694915858

That was CLOSE! If he'd landed long it could've been really ugly. Pretty foggy, so vis was not great either. Hope the guy in the truck had a change of clothes in his locker.
preacher1
preacher1 3
Close is kind of an understatement bub. That could have got real ugly PDQ, looking at your link.
sgbelverta
sharon bias 3
Need another warm body in the control tower.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Yeah they said it was a Sunday and there was only 1 guy on duty, normally 4.
RECOR10
RECOR10 1
Bah! Who needs humans to make decisions in these things? Should I rent you a copy of Wall-E and Terminator?
preacher1
preacher1 2
That could have been ugly.
toolguy105
toolguy105 2
Good Job Captain
preacher1
preacher1 3
I wonder how a computer would have responded. Ya'll remember now, we are automating the planes, not the tower, that allowed this to happen, or ATC. Humans are still in the equation.
carlsonj
James Carlson 0
It's hard to tell without having the specs of this proposed automated system to look over, but at a guess, you'd have to equip all of the ramp vehicles with transponders/ASDE-X as part of the system. Then the computer would have seen "runway occupied" and initiated a go-around. It likely would have done so well before any human could have seen the conflict.

I get your point that humans can be more flexible when dealing with unexpected and unpredictable situations -- say, a boulder dropped in the middle of the touchdown zone -- and I also don't want to see human pilots replaced, but I don't think that means that humans will always do better, either on average or with known failure modes.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Never having been there or flown with any of those guys, I wonder why there is such a culture/status difference between the Japanese and South Korean Pilots. You don't see the bashing of JAL/ANA pilots that you do any of the S. Korean pilots.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Tiggerflute
Tiggerflute 1
Among the comments below the actual article was this:

"If the airport is staffed by the same type of people who work at normal Japanese companies, the other three were all probably on the toilet playing smart phone games. If I visit a client at a Japanese office at any time of day, I will usually find that half the desks in the office are empty, and all of the toilet stalls are occupied."

Boy, have times changed. In the "old days" the guy in the tower would have committed hara kiri even with the happy ending.
pioneerscheers
Scott Scheer 1
I'm thinking the most surprised guy in this scenario was in the white maintenance vehicle. Can you imagine....Hey, where did that jet come from? Guess he should've been checking his rear-view mirrors.
distar97
Dennis Harper 1
When will media types learn a runway is not a tarmac.
carlsonj
James Carlson 0
Tarmac is a material similar to asphalt ... and, no, they'll never learn. To most of the public, what we call a "ramp" or "apron" is the tarmac.

Out of all the things they could get wrong, though, that one doesn't bother me much. Sure, it's a misunderstanding, but it has no serious implications.

There are others that are potentially much more serious, such as not understanding the roles and responsibilities that the each of us has, or how the safety record is achieved. Those are the sorts of things that lead to hysteria, bad press, and usually even worse legislation. The Colgan disaster is a good case in point.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Just like the Germanwings crash, this wasn't supposed to happen either.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
How would a totally automated plane with no pilot handle this situation??? Job well done pilots...
Paul1davis
Paul Davis 3
A compliment for a non American pilot, blimey, we should get it framed!!

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